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To: Wolfstar
I am open minded on the subject...

Looking at the blow-up of the blow-out, I see several things that need investigating.

First is the fact that the "flap" of skull that extends forward of the ear, carries much more tissue with it than is shown on the autopsy photos. Also the flap itself is much lower down on the skull than the flap is shown in the autopsy and extends from the right ear toward the orbit of the right eye... this ismuch lower down completely contrary to the depiction in the autopsy.

Secondly, there is a grayish area at the rear of the head that may represent hair being blown out of the way by the entry of a bullet. However, the gray is inconsistent with any other areas of hair color, regardless of the angle the sunlight strikes it. I wonder if anyone has done any digital color comparison checking on that gray area... it does NOT match any colors I see with my eyes in the blow-up It. It doesn't match hair, skull, flesh, or anything else that should be there. Is it an artifact? Could it be a deformed lead bullet?

Thirdly, there appears to be a flap of skull starting to extend out of the back of the head (look at the area below Jackie's chin) that MIGHT correspond to some of the autopsy photos where we see a flap of skull edge on just in that position. This flap may represent an exit wound from a frontal shot.

There have been theories that the head exploded because TWO bullets struck simultaneously... one from the rear and one from the front.

Speaking of exposives, your use of the phrase "...due to the explosive force of the bullet exiting out the right-front of the skull..." is interesting. Observing the proposed rear entrance, front exit trajectory, and the fact the autopy doctors identify a curved arc that could be an "exit" wound on the skull, the position of Kennedy at the moment of the killing shot, would lead me to believe the bullet or fragments thereof, would have impacted INSIDE the limosine In fact, the wax dummy figure and many of the diagrams show a straight through trajectory that would have hit somewhere IN the car. Where are they? Where is the bullet hole in the car? Where are the fragments imbeded in the seats or in Connely, or the SS agents in the front seats? Curious.

204 posted on 11/25/2003 5:33:01 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: CholeraJoe; Ophiucus
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205 posted on 11/25/2003 5:50:21 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker
In fact, the wax dummy figure and many of the diagrams show a straight through trajectory that would have hit somewhere IN the car. Where are they? Where is the bullet hole in the car? Where are the fragments imbeded in the seats or in Connely, or the SS agents in the front seats? Curious.

Two fragments were found inside the limo. The winshield was cracked from the inside, and a piece of chrome along the windshield (on the inside) was dented. Fragments in Limo

206 posted on 11/25/2003 5:52:22 PM PST by Tares
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To: Swordmaker
The radiograph's (don't call them x-rays, since x-rays are invisible to the human eye) indicate an anterior-posterior projectile trajectory. Metal fragments are visible inside the brain and in the chest film purported to be of JFK. The so called, "pristine bullet" is unbelievable.

I saw a pic of it on the Hitler Channel the other night and there is no way it went through two chests, a forearm, (hitting a bone) and a thigh and came out intact.

The tissue attached to the flap is undoubtedly brain tissue that fell off and was hosed out later. The rear of the limo and a motorcycle patrolman were covered with blood and brain/skull fragments. It cannot be totally explained by the speed of the motorcade.

I know enough about ballistics to state that solids penetrate and hollow points explode. I'm not a pathologist but I've spent 10,000 hours in trauma situations, including battlefield conditions.

208 posted on 11/25/2003 7:58:43 PM PST by CholeraJoe (Daddy, how many US soldiers have to die in defense of Freedom? Daughter, if necessary, all but 9.)
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To: Swordmaker; Wolfstar
Looking at a blowup of one frame of a digital rendering of a sometime in focus, sometime out of focus home movie film...and what is expected to be seen?

What I can clearly make out:

What I can guess at:

What seems to be missing:

That is not a facetious list. Many errors can occur if you try to see too much in a blurred image. Based on this image alone, it does look like an avulsion might have occurred and could have been a tangential shot from either direction.

Swordmaker, as to the autopsy photos that linked, you left an important one out. Does your link have the photo of the full face view, from the right and above Kennedy as he lay on the table? Reason I asked because there have been written accounts and posts on this thread about how the zygomatic process was supposedly crushed as part of the exit wounding. I can't see it but I just have a small hardcopy in a book. Also, the errors in the photo/x-ray invoices were made the night they were taken not three years later, otherwise, I could understand....maybe.

In leaving tonight, my wish list would be that Kennedy's body had stayed in Dallas for a criminal forensic pathologist team to do the autopsy, that the FBI agents assigned to remain with the body to preserve the chain of evidence hadn't been initially barred from the Bethesda autopsy and then asked to leave during for the radiographs and delayed in returning, that the autopsy, records, and testimony hadn't been so sloppy in crucial parts. If an A-1 criminal team had put together a more ordered investigation, there wouldn't have been room for doubt, misinterpretation, etc.

Other than that - it's getting late and have a happy Turkey Day all.

210 posted on 11/25/2003 9:24:05 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Swordmaker
I wondered about that "gray area" at the base of JFK's head, too. After repeatedly watching Lancey Howard's film loop + the Oct. '64 Life Magazine photos, I believe what is seen is Mrs. Kennedy's glove as she wraps her arms around her husband's neck.
231 posted on 12/01/2003 8:11:21 PM PST by ntnychik
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