JFK's fatal head wound: The truth for those who want to know (very graphic)

jmasland.com & others | 11/22/03

[Wolfstar]

The Zapruder film proves itself to be authentic. There is no possibility that any frames could have been cut out of the film or altered. Why/how? Every time a frame was exposed, part of the background scene was exposed onto both the next frame and the previous frame in the sprocket hole areas. This is because the sproket holes are between frames, as shown below:

The head shot, frame-by-frame:

Frame 312

Frame 313

Frame 313 enlarged:

Frame 314

Frame 315

Frame 316

Frame 317

Frame 318

Frame 319

Frame 320

The head wound:

The large flap of skull, skin and other tissue blown out above and just in front of the president’s right ear. The flap stayed attached and hung over the president's right cheek. On the ride to Parkland, Mrs. Kennedy attempted to put it back in place. What the doctors saw at Parkland was the wound partially closed with the shattered pieces at the top rear of the wound missing. Hence, some doctors recalled a wound in that area:

[Double Tap]

Thanks should go to you. The frame shots and the mock-up of the head make this the best thread I've seen so far on this subject.

[CyberAnt]

Okay, Thanks!

[Wolfstar]

Disappointing. I had hoped that, as a physician, you would look at the autopsy photos clinically. Sigh. Can you not put aside your own opinions for a few minutes and just objectively describe the wounds you see in the autopsy photos? I don't mean what direction you believe the shot to have come from, but the nature of the wounds, themselves. If you are, indeed, a physician, you could add to the knowledge of us all.

[glowworm]

Also the exit wound exploded as a dum dum bullet would cause and not the cleaner hole produced by military ammo as is the "magic bullet"... An accurate physical simulation would also be in the realm of possibility, knowing the weight of his head and calculating a rotation around the neck.. Dynamics is dynamics.. no matter what the material..

[Wolfstar]

Those who refuse to acknowledge the truth are beyond reach. But those who really do want to know the facts may benefit by this info, even though it is gruesome. I very much appreciate it when someone, such as yourself, takes the time to add his or her expertise to our body of knowledge.

[gooleyman]

"The physicist Luis Alvarez, who wrote an extensive report on the Zapruder film, showed that the backwards head movement can be explained by the forward ejection of brain matter. Alvarez is a Nobel Prize winner who worked on the atomic bomb."

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I also heard that they did tests on melons of some sort and had to do many, many test shots to get one to recoil backwards like Alvarez' theory purports.

[texasbluebell]

In this frame you can see the impact and the bullet exiting from the rear.

Holy cow! I've never heard anyone say this before. You mean you can actually see the bullet in this photo?

[texasbluebell]

Might the backwards motion of his head also have been partially due to the sudden acceleration of the car. If my recollection is even close to correct, as soon as the shots rang out the driver sped up quickly ....

It would make sense that they sped up, but I've read accounts from some of the agents who were perplexed that the car just sat there for something like 10 seconds. I can't link to it though, sorry.

[tpaine]

"He used a single magic bullet."

No, actually, he didn't.

There were three verified shots fired. One that missed, one that hit the president in the back and exited through his throat, and one that hit the president in the head.


The only thing I am trying to do with this thread is demonstrate the truth about the fatal head shot clearly for those whose minds are open to the truth.
I do not argue for or against any conspiracy theory — only that those who believe a conspiracy existed should at least not twist the truth about the fatal head shot.

It came from the rear and took out pretty much all of the upper right side of the president's head.
A well-meant conspiracy theory will try to make the theory fit the facts, not the other way around.
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The single "magic" bullet theory is key to the controversy, not the direction of the head shot, which may never be proven.


You insist there were three "verified" shots fired. One that missed, one that hit the president in the back and exited through his throat, and one that hit the president in the head.



Thus you contradict yourself claiming the "only thing I am trying to do with this thread is demonstrate the truth about the fatal head shot clearly for those whose minds are open to the truth."

You are arguing for the Reports theory & against any conspiracy theory.

— That the fatal head shot came from the rear and took out pretty much all of the upper right side of the president's head is not really an issue, as another shooter from the rear is entirely possible.

The timing of the previous shots, the wounds they made, when compared to the Z film, make it almost impossible for Osawald to have to have been the lone assassin.

Certainly, "a well-meant conspiracy theory will try to make the theory fit the facts, not the other way around." -- And this is exactly what the Commission did back in '64 with their single bullet bull.

--They made themselves into the whackos, and most of us never believed their lone gunman fantasy.

[wideminded]

Might the backwards motion of his head also have been partially due to the sudden acceleration of the car. If my recollection is even close to correct, as soon as the shots rang out the driver sped up quickly .... or so accounts were saying at the time. And it certainly makes sense.

Alvarez did an extremely detailed analysis of the motion of the car and the camera. He showed that the car actually slowed down just before the fatal shot and stayed at this reduced speed until the end of the portion of the Zapruder film which he examined. Here's one link to the Alvarez report. Unfortunately it is a photo-copy.

[templar]

No one can see the bullet exit. It fragmented inside the president's head.

Was it the bullet that hit the Presidents head that also hit Conally or one of the other shots? And what kind of bullet was used (I'm assuming a very limited number of commercial cartridges available for this caliber at the time of the shooting, and only one milsurp one)?

[azcap]

He also pointed out that the distance fron the window to the cars position on the street is no great distance. TV makes it look bigger than it is. The shot has ben BETTERED by amatures.

 

The History Channel needs to have R. Lee Ermey put a good shooter in a tower and take a shot at a watermelon moving below at 15mph to prove to a lot of people that it is a good shot but not an incredible shot. I'm pretty sure I could duplicate the first shot  - getting two on target that quickly is probably a little better than I could do - but then again I haven't practiced trying to assassinate anyone as a life goal. 

 

Regarding brains going backwards. The apple photo shown earlier demonstrates the physics of bullets hitting soft targets perfectly. People who think bullets always make small holes going in and big holes going out are right if your talking about steel or wood, but people are soft. Even Democrats don't have steel heads.

[CholeraJoe]

The only bullet photos I have seen are of one intact bullet that was found on JFK's stretcher. What about the one that blasted the TX Governor? What about the one that hit the curb? What about the one from the front that was a hollow point? Show me an xray of his head with official stamps.

[davetex]

HUH?

[Wolfstar]

You are arguing for the Reports theory & against any conspiracy theory.

No, actually, I am not. All I've done is state what is known on the record. There are three shots on the record, per photographs, witness testimony, wounds, and the marks of the bullet known to have missed. One missed. One hit the president in the back/neck. One hit him in the head. Notice I have avoided the claim that the bullet that hit Kennedy in the back/neck also hit Connolly. I'll let others argue the point.

The single "magic" bullet theory is key to the controversy, not the direction of the head shot, which may never be proven.

The number and direction of all the shots is key to the whole issue of whether or not there was a conspiracy. How can you say the direction of the head shot "may never be proven" when the proof is right in front of you? I don't argue against a conspiracy, only against basing the argument for a conspiracy on a distortion of the known facts.

[wideminded]

Work on the atomic bomb does not necessarily establish expertise in wound ballistics. I have extensive knowledge about Critical Nuclear Weapons Design and Deployment Information (CNWDDI) I was cleared for that level of security when I was in the USAF.

Alvarez was selected to be involved in the original design of the atomic bomb at Los Alamos because he was a REALLY SMART GUY (and he happened to work for Ernest O. Lawrence). He didn't claim to be an expert on wounds or the fluid dynamics of jetting brain matter, just on physics. BTW you might be interested to know that he originated the idea of using exploding wire arrays to trigger atomic explosions. I posted a link to his report in #110.

[Wolfstar]

According to the Warren Commission, the first shot missed, the second shot hit the president in the back and exited out his throat continued on and hit Connolly. The third, fatal head shot occurred a few seconds later. Again, for those who insist on misunderstanding: This is according to the Warren Commission, not according to me. As for the kind of bullets used, I don't know that info.

[wideminded]

Thanks should go to you. The frame shots and the mock-up of the head make this the best thread I've seen so far on this subject.

Ditto.

[CholeraJoe]

While there are photos pretending to be from the the JFK autopsy, there are no xrays of his head that have been authenticated. I insist upon seeing AP and Lateral skull films with AFIP markers. Until I do, I cannot accept the premise that there was a single shooter.

[Wolfstar]

First, the nearly pristine bullet was found on Connolly's stretcher, not JFK's. Again, the Warren Commission said the first shot missed, the second hit the president in the back, exited his throat and hit the governor. The third shot hit the president in the head. If you've got a beef about this, argue with the Warren Commission.

Show me an xray of his head with official stamps.

Do your own research, doc. There are books that have been published with many if not all of the autopsy photos. They are hard to find on the internet, although with enough time and patience, you may find some. The photos published on this site are authentic, whether or not you want to believe them.

Once again, doc, any good physician should be able to put his or her personal opinions aside and clinically explain the anatomy of what is seen in the autopsy photos posted here. Even if you think they are falsified, you should still be able to offer a clinical description of what they show. You may choose not to, or it may be that you can't. A physician with expertise in nuclear weapons? Hmmm...