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Marijuana Not Gateway

Posted on 11/13/2003 9:36:26 AM PST by KBlaze69

Since Marijuana is the main drug that is able to be tested for when on probation people often tend to switch to other drugs while on paper, this is what causes people to get attached to other drugs not marijuana itself. If Marijuana were legalized this i feel that this wouldn't be as much of a problem.


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KEYWORDS: addiction; gatewaydrug; legalized; marijuana
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To: dcwusmc
1. You might want to buy a dog. Perhaps they will jump to your commands. Me, I just laugh at you.

2. I don't play the BS word games with you dope crusaders. I've seen that BS too much.

3. You use a word like honest. LOL!

41 posted on 11/19/2003 4:02:33 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
So what you're saying is that you are too chickensh!t to answer it. Having read your posts over a long period of time, I expected no more than that from you. You have YET to do more than throw out flamebait and mock those who want to have an honest discussion WITHOUT the heat that your flames create. Pity. Not surprising, though.
42 posted on 11/19/2003 4:39:13 PM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: dcwusmc
No, that's what you're saying. Just like the rant you went on with your bogus dope crusader question, it's pretty meaningless. But I expect no less considering the source.

So what name is leroy using today?

43 posted on 11/19/2003 4:46:44 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Hellifino what MrLeroy's doing.

And, BTW, though you will likely choose to disbelieve and mock what I have to say, I spent too many of my formative years thinking drug use was bad for me to be able to change and embrace them now. Not to mention all of the little bottles I had to fill for our Corpsmen... The War on Americans (aka the War on some Drugs)is the most blatant and obvious attack on the Constitution. The violations include virtually ALL of the first ten amendments except number Three... and I suspect that violating THAT one would be the only way to "win" that war... when each and every home has a government agent living in it, maybe, just MAYBE we'd have no more drug use... but then again, if the gubmint can't even keep drugs out of max security prisons, I kinda doubt it.

So my crusade is the restoration of the Constitution for the United States, AS WRITTEN, to be the Supreme Law of the Land. I am NOT a believer in the goodness of government or of the "living" Constitution or even the basic WISDOM of politicians, judges and bureaucraps. Of course, neither do I believe in the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy.

The question I asked you serves to point out that you, if you are honest with yourself, let alone anyone around you, are no different than the Left which seeks out activist judges to get what they cannot get passed by the legislature. You get laws passed to have government do what you, as an individual, haven't the legitmate authority to do. In this you are not one whit different than the most extreme leftist (who this month is Howard Dean, if I hear correctly). And it's all to the same goal: gaining power and control over the lives of others. Demonize drugs and drug users; get people used to the idea of more stringent controls (for our own good, of course). Demonize firearms and gun owners, at the same time, and get people used to the idea that we should be disarmed. Then we can have raids on gun owners and those vile creatures have it coming, just like the druggies did. But then, who's next? And there WILL be a next victim, just as sure as the sun rises in the east. Power and control. It's an addiction far worse than crack or meth or heroin. And FedGov suffers from it. And you cheer them on. Just as I once enabled my ex-wife to continue her addiction to alcohol until finally I could take no more. Funny thing, after we were divorced she stopped drinking and became a much nicer person. Perhaps when you get over your addiction to power you'll be a much nicer person to know. I am already aware that we have a lot in common. It's just this power trip that turns you into an Edward Hyde.
44 posted on 11/19/2003 5:33:07 PM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: dcwusmc
Yes, restoration of the Constitution is the excuse a lot of the dopers use...and it's amazing how many of them claim that they don't use dope themselves...they're only interest is in preserving the Constitution.

Sure it is...my arse.

45 posted on 11/20/2003 4:49:49 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Tell you what, if it would help my credibility with you, I will match piss tests any time. You get a lab in Northern California and I will go any time and pass the test. Guaranteed. As often as you like. I won't even pop positive for nicotine any more.

It is an issue for me because if the gubmint juggernaut is not stopped here, then when they want my guns, who will help stop them then? When they want my computer or fax machine because I can publish "sedition" over the 'Net, who will speak for me? You? I hardly think so. You are too comfortable with things as they are. I suspect that you think that maybe you can be part of the ruling "elite" which Thomas Sowell describes so elequently. If so, you are likely doomed to disappointment, as you are not a Kennedy, Bush, or Rockefeller. Or one of their toadies, like Hill-n-Bill. Oh, well. Self-delusion is the hardest one to break.
46 posted on 11/20/2003 11:47:20 AM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: dcwusmc
Thanks for the offer but your piss has about as much importance and value to me as your views...none.
47 posted on 11/20/2003 12:25:51 PM PST by CWOJackson (This will be the President's undoing...)
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To: CWOJackson
So are you saying you'd rather troll and post flamebait than actually discuss? Sounds about your speed. And fits your M.O.
48 posted on 11/20/2003 12:34:01 PM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: dcwusmc
LOL! No, it just means I don't play the silly propaganda word games some of the dope crusaders like to pursue.
49 posted on 11/20/2003 12:35:57 PM PST by CWOJackson (This will be the President's undoing...)
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To: CWOJackson
It says a whole lot more about you than it does your opponents. And, were it me, I'd be concerned about that. If I could not make a case for my position without recourse to riducule, appeals to authority or out-and-out lies, I'd say the same thing as you.
50 posted on 11/20/2003 1:20:40 PM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: dcwusmc
"If I could not make a case for my position without recourse to..."

You cannot make a case for your position. You just play the same tired old word games them spin up when people don't facilitate you. Which would explain why you people are so successful...not.

51 posted on 11/20/2003 1:25:21 PM PST by CWOJackson (This will be the President's undoing...)
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I can make a case for MY position based on reason, the Constitution for the United States and the words of the Founders. Your "case" can only be made based on the lies that started the War on Americans, the lies that continue to support it, the vast corruption that surrounds it to this day and the "living" Constitution that is anathema to anyone who BELIEVES in what the Founders were doing.
52 posted on 11/21/2003 8:07:20 PM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: dcwusmc
"I can make a case for MY position based on reason..."

Oh Gosh, I laughed to hard on that one. Sorry, but you attempt to make your case upon a twisted logic that you people use.

53 posted on 11/22/2003 5:08:47 AM PST by CWOJackson (This will be the President's undoing...)
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To: CWOJackson
1. You might want to buy a dog. Perhaps they will jump to your commands. Me, I just laugh at you.

2. I don't play the BS word games with you dope crusaders. I've seen that BS too much.

Translation into simple English: You either are too fearful of the contradictions in your cartoonish logic that would be exposed were you to do so, or you're simply incapable of doing so.

Glad to be of assistance.

54 posted on 11/22/2003 11:44:26 AM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: Pahuanui
No, it was correct the first time...but no thanks anyway.
55 posted on 11/22/2003 11:45:22 AM PST by CWOJackson (Wal-Mart was behind the JFK assassination...)
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To: CWOJackson
I understand that you're afraid to respond to the statement in question, but show some stones and step up to the plate.
56 posted on 11/22/2003 11:51:17 AM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: Pahuanui
LOL! Sure thing bozo. I know it's frustrating when people won't lobe the Soros talking point soft balls for you folks. I understand.

And ain't it a shame poor leroy got booted yet again. How many times has this been now? 9? 10?

57 posted on 11/22/2003 11:52:58 AM PST by CWOJackson (Wal-Mart was behind the JFK assassination...)
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To: CWOJackson
LOL! Sure thing bozo. I know it's frustrating when people won't lobe the Soros talking point soft balls for you folks. I understand.

I accept your acknowledgement of your intellectual cowardice.

You keep talking the talk, Tinkerbell.

58 posted on 11/22/2003 2:03:34 PM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: Pahuanui
No, you don't accept anything you simply presume...the distinction would be too difficult to explain to you.
59 posted on 11/22/2003 2:04:55 PM PST by CWOJackson (Wal-Mart was behind the JFK assassination...)
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To: Pahuanui
If you can, try to make your next brilliant response in under 3 hours. I know it might difficult to formulate a couple of sentences but the suspence kills me.
60 posted on 11/22/2003 2:05:44 PM PST by CWOJackson (Wal-Mart was behind the JFK assassination...)
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