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Why was he carrying a 25 caliber Beretta in the first place?

Sounds like a T.E.D. ......

Threat elimination drill.

The vast majority of the model 1911s available today are all relatively good and very functional. Basically, you can't go too far wrong with any of them. That said, if you want to conceal carry a full size 1911, be prepared. The older (and some newer) models that are all steel can be heavy after just a few hours, not to mention they are quite large (5 inch barrel). I recommend a little research. As an example, the Kimber Ultra Carry is a 3 inch, aluminum framed 1911 that is very “portable” at 25 ounces empty. The full size Warrior series are 14 ounces heavier (almost a pound)... and they are bulkier, of course, with the added barrel length. Both are accurate, enough. The Springfield and Rock Island 1911s are not as expensive and can be had in the 3 inch size. The more expensive models from the likes of Wilson Combat and Nighthawk are very good, and well accessorized. There are others of course on both ends of the financial spectrum. The venerable 1911 and it's variants (2011 from STI for example) and some of the new style polymer framed weapons in 45ACP from FN and Springfield should also be checked out. What ever “1” fits your hand and “2” fits your budget. I recommend buying at a price point that you are comfortable with remembering that your life may depend on it and if you use it, you will most probably lose it to the police since it will become evidence. Have a back up. Acquiring two of the same model carry gun is not unheard of. Get training, practice, and get more training.

On a side not, you mentioned that you are more of a traditionalist. New technology can be a good thing, at times. Weapons with rails although not very pretty are very functional if used properly. Laser sighting devices have their place as well. Remember, anything that is mechanical or electronic can fail at any time. Train for that eventuality.

Back to lurking,
ms

My daughter has just been accepted to flight school herself. She is a two time combat vet already. Once on deployment with the Navy on an aircraft carrier and the second time as a crew chief on blackhawk helicopters in Iraq. I am very proud of her for “going for it”. She has always wanted to fly and now she is going to get her chance.

To the best of my recollection, a group of churches agreed to not allow concealed weapons in places of worship in accordance with Utah law. Each denomination “signed” on. This includes folks with valid concealed weapons/gun permits but I am sure it allows police officers to carry if they so choose. I seem to recall that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints asked it members with permits to refrain from carrying at meetings. This only applies to the state of Utah to the best of my knowledge as it meets a state law requirement. I should probably have researched this better to give a more correct answer.
I don’t recall if Utah is an open carry state.

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ms

(yes I am)

http://www.handgunlaw.us/

Try here.

ms

I have never nor would I ever tell a member of the Church (or anyone else for that matter) how to vote. We make every attempt to fullfill our civic duty and vote for the best qualified candidate. Of course the lesser of two evils is the choice most of the time. There have been members of the Church I would not and did not vote for in local elections (no one 'here' is perfect). Most folks vote their beliefs and values.
If a candidate reflects the majority of those values then he/she gets my/your vote. The only reference to politics I've ever witnessed from the pulpit is a reminder to vote for the BEST candidate (whether they are qualified or not is another issue of course). It takes a special personality to recognize and avoid self gratification. Public service provides an abundance of temptations and avoiding them is difficult without the required self discipline of the servant and his or her support team. If a person lives by a set of values that dictates that their behavior is honest and selfless, and they make decisions based on facts, sound logic, knowledge of acceptable social laws, and in the best interest of all, then there is not much that could be better. Of course you can't and won't please everyone. Do your best and make your staff do their best.

But we already know all this....

Blessings to all,
ms

Outstanding. Thank you!

View the slides. Very moving for me anyway.

Semper Fi This we will defend