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In order to be fair to, er, "certain people" who had the rug pulled out from them when I had thread #1 yanked, and who are miffed because I wanted to keep the associated argument out of thread #2, I have established this thread #3. Have fun here. Inveigh as much as you would like against instruments in worship, even to the point of preaching hellfire and brimstone if you should be so moved. I will offer no counter-argument and answer no pings here. It's yours guys. Have a great day.

This is a new thread for discussion of Christian musical worship teams. It is to be understood, however, that participants voice no general objection to the usage of instruments in accompaniment or support of Christian worship. That kind of argument should kindly be taken elsewhere! Thank you very much.

To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33953 Thursday, August 7, 2003 CRIMENETDAILYBoy Scout assaulted at summer camp?Parents claim group leaders responded poorly to incident Posted: August 7, 20031:00 a.m. Eastern © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. – A 12-year-old Boy Scout was allegedly raped by an older member at a summer camp near Kansas City, and his parents are blaming Scout leaders for handling the incident poorly. On Tuesday, the victim's parents returned to H-Roe Bartle Camp southwest of here in Osceola to file a complaint with authorities about the alleged incident, KMBC-TV News reported. A family member says the boy,...

comes under ethical cloud To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33968 Thursday, August 7, 2003 ALL THE EX-PRESIDENT'S SCANDALSHomeland Security honcho comes under ethical cloudFormer Clinton loyalist accused of faking credentials, threatening employees with jail Posted: August 7, 20031:00 a.m. Eastern By Paul Sperry © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com WASHINGTON -- "Please be advised I will not tolerate any further derogatory comments from you about my knowledge, qualifications and/or professional competence." That was former White House computer manager Laura Crabtree Callahan blasting a colleague in an e-mail for questioning her qualifications in 1997. In hindsight, the computer-networking specialist criticizing Callahan might not have been...

Friday, August 1, 2003 BIZNETDAILY COMMENTARYShould I market my technology to pornographers?Why sin industries are earliest adopters Posted: August 1, 20031:00 a.m. Eastern Editor's note: Russ McGuire is the online director of Business Reform Magazine. Each issue of Business Reform features practical advice on operating successfully in business while glorifying God. By Russ McGuire © 2003 Business Reform When it comes to new technology, sinners rule. Between sex and gambling, the earliest users and easily the first profitable users of many new technologies have been pornographers and casinos. If your company is developing a new technology, targeting these industries may provide...

Two heads of three-headed Iraqi Hydra have been chopped off. While I oppose capital punishment with all of my corpuscles, what happened to these two monsters wasn't an execution. When ordered by U.S. troops over a loudspeaker to surrender, the Brothers Grim answered with gunfire and wounded four of our finest. We fired back, and, as the saying goes, it looks like Uday and Qusay won't be coming down for breakfast tomorrow. Together, they combined all the qualities possessed by an entire dock of hanged Nazis tried at Nuremberg. But, unlike the Nazis, whose mass murders were conducted by signing...

I was in the office of a veterinarian today when I heard the desk clerk say something I couldn't believe. But then I asked the vet myself and she said it was true. Turns out the drug war officials of the great state of Illinois, which already has one of the USA's most restrictive policies on hypodermic needles for outpatient treatment of pets (the pet owner must get a certificate from the vet, not just a prescription) contacted the vet and told them they are prohibited from taking back used needles from pet owners to which they were sold. The...

One man was wounded and dozens arrested Tuesday morning in law enforcement raids statewide that targeted outlaw bikers suspected of bomb-making, murder for hire and narcotics violations. Carlos Baixauli, an agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said more than 500 law enforcement officers took part in the operation, serving warrants on 18 Hells Angels Motorcycle Club members and associates. ... Baixauli said Tuesday morning's raids culminated a two-year investigation by Phoenix police and BATFE agents who infiltrated criminal gangs with three undercover officers that led to 14 indictments. Thirty-five search warrants and 36 arrest warrants...

... William R. Kennedy, the former owner of a precious-metals firm and publisher of Conservative Digest, ... is currently serving 20 years in federal prison at Nellis Correctional Institute in Las Vegas, Nev. Sentenced in 1994, Kennedy was convicted of mail fraud and money laundering charges... Kennedy's claim stands out as distinct. And Kennedy, his family and his lawyers hope President Bush takes notice. In a summary briefing provided to WorldNetDaily, Kennedy's legal team – led by attorney Craig Parshall of Fredricksburg, Va. – laid out the reasons why they want the president to grant him executive clemency. If even...

A state university is helping its students "sort out sexuality issues" with an annual week-long event featuring a porn film festival and a guest lecture by an activist in the BDSM – or bondage, dominance and sadomasochism – "community." Western Washington University in Bellingham held its 11th annual National Outdoor Intercourse Day observance this week, with offerings such as condom hunts and a masturbation information table. The student-run Sexual Awareness Center sponsored events focused on educating students about available resources the school offers on sexual topics, the campus newspaper said. "Our goal is to help students sort out sexuality issues...

A daily newspaper published a fake story at the request of law enforcement officials, helping prosecute a man but also raising ethical red flags among journalists. Editors at suburban Seattle's Eastside Journal, now the King County Journal, said they cooperated with prosecutors and sheriff's detectives who asked them to run a false article to catch convicted murderer Steven Sherer in a plot to burn down the home where his teenage son lives with the mother of his slain wife, the Seattle Times reported.

The bull market is dead. It was shot in the head and gutted – and its decaying carcass has been smelling up the neighborhood for the last three years. Even last summer, I can recall so-called investment experts who claimed that the bull was just taking a nap – it is now in fashion to insist that because of the success of the war in Iraq, a reinvigorated economy and revitalized bull market are just around the corner. This, ladies and gentlemen, is nothing more than the ripest, rankest bovine excrement.

    Wheaton faculty plan this conference for their students and for the local community. The topic is timely, for tension between liberty and security frames current events. Yet the topic is enduring, for we struggle to balance liberty and security in all life's experiences. At times, indeed, this struggle involves dissent. Attend as many sessions as you wish and be ready to think deeply and practically about living Christianly in today's world.Kenneth Chase, Ph.D. CACE DirectorAll sessions (except Thursday evening) are free and open to the public. No registration is required. Campus building directions may be obtained at...

PHOENIX -- A theology teacher at a Roman Catholic high school lost his job after giving a student a valentine that read, "I hate you, I wish you would die."

Had an abortion, or know someone who has? This hot topic comes at us, in the media, from every angle. But how many of those who've gone through this process know of God's deep, strong love for them? Did you know, as a Father loves his children, His laws are designed to protect you? Did you know that while He weeps at the death of every little one, His arms are stretched out toward those who come to the Cross and ask for His forgiveness? In 1993 Joel Brind presented his thesis, "Induced Abortion as an Independent Risk Factor for...

Dear fellow (and gal) Hi Tech freepers I am looking to try to make contacts to hiring managers in these ETL vendors, beyond what can be achieved simply by submitting resumes to their HR departments (which I have already done). Informatica (Redwood City, California); Ascential (Westboro, Massachusetts); Ab Initio (Lexington, Massachusetts); Others? For most of my software engineering career of 17 years (and almost from its beginning) I've created proprietary data translation and migration software, from scratch, at a large telecommunications firm which I unfortunately got laid off from last month because the bottom fell out of that market. I've...

I am a conservative/libertarian Redneck, but I am considering the prospects of taking a job in Massachusetts (in the Boston area) but residing in southern New Hampshire. What are the politics of NH like, and what would the economics of the prospective situation be like (will I get taxed by Taxachusetts, NH, or both?) Thanks....

In the last several days, media reports have revealed that a little-known Defense Department office is developing a computer system that would provide government officials with the ability to snoop into all aspects of our private lives without a search warrant or proof of criminal wrongdoing. The Pentagon's new Office of Information Awareness is building a system called "Total Information Awareness" that would effectively provide government officials with immediate access to our personal information: all of our communications (phone calls, emails and web searches), financial records, purchases, prescriptions, school records, medical records and travel history. Under this program, our entire...

Well, I am between careers now. The large hi-tech company I was working for as a software engineer has pretty much gone on the rocks and has laid off most of its people in the last couple of years. One of the career options which seriously came to my mind is the National Security Agency. Yes, I know about Poindexter, the Homeland Security Act, and all that controversy. I predict that before Poindexter's purported plan to wiretap the USA at large will get past our legal system to fruition in any form close to its original conception, hell will freeze...