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"Art thou not Sebastian whom I before commanded to be slain with arrows?" ~ A few interesting points about Saint Sebastian's ancient Passio.
Gloria Romanorum ^ | January 20, 2022 | Florentius

Posted on 01/21/2022 7:34:58 AM PST by Antoninus

Saint Sebastian is one of the great ancient martyrs of the Roman Catholic Church as well as one of the saints most frequently depicted in artwork down through the centuries. The image of Sebastian tied to a stake, his body riddled with arrows, is one of the most immediately recognizable and jarring images of the ancient martyrs.

As with many of the martyrs from the days prior to Constantine, his story has become somewhat muddled. He is mentioned in a homily of Saint Ambrose (On Psalm 118) as having come from Milan. Most of the rest of his biography comes from a Passio of dubious provenance. Scholars of the previous era ascribed this work to Saint Ambrose himself, though more modern scholars tend to dismiss this attribution. Few doubt the antiquity of the Passio, however, and the existing work is commonly dated to the early fifth century—or about a century after the events recorded therein.

As with many of the ancient martyrdom accounts, the Passio has not been translated into English. It does, however, exist excerpted in numerous other works, including a detailed synopsis which may be found at The Cult of Saints in Late Antiquity site, sponsored by Oxford University.

A different type of synopsis of the Passio may be found in the Homilies of Aelfric of Eynsham, a late 10th century Anglo Saxon abbot who transcribed the Latin tale into Old English for the edification of his monks. Here is the ancient story of Sebastian’s martyrdom as told in part with excerpts from Aelfric’s work. The entirety of the account may be found here: Skeat: Aelfric's Lives of Saints, p. 117 and following.

The Passion of Saint Sebastian, Martyr, January 20

There was a holy servant of God, called Sebastian, who was a long time in the city of Milan for education, and was baptized into Christ with full faith. He was a very prudent man, truthful in word, righteous in judgment, in counsel foreseeing, trusty in need, a prevailing intercessor, shining in goodness, and in all his ways honorable.

Daily he fulfilled his Lord's service zealously, but he concealed, nevertheless, his deeds from the emperor Diocletian who was the devil's worshipper. Diocletian loved the holy man, notwithstanding, and knew not that he believed in the living God. He set him as prefect over a cohort, and bade that he should always be in his presence; and all the household held him as a father, and honored him with love, because God loved him. He followed the emperor, unknown to him, however, not as if he durst not suffer for his Lord, but he desired to encourage those whom the heathen emperor daily killed for their faith in Christ.

Diocletian, as we know, reigned from AD 284 through AD 305 when he abdicated and retired to a fortified palace on the Dalmatian coast. The notion that secret Christians may have existed in the court of Diocletian is in no way surprising and jives well with the account of Lactantius in On the Deaths of the Persecutors. Indeed, it is possible that Diocletian’s own wife, Prisca, and daughter, Valeria, were secret Christians.

Sebastian was able to use his position in the court to console the brothers Marcus and Marcellianus who were imprisoned as Christians by Chromatius, the Prefect of Rome, and condemned to death unless they offered sacrifice to the pagan divinities. These brothers were from an aristocratic family and both wavered as their family members attempted to convince them to save their lives by abjuring the Christian faith. Due to the stature of their families, Chromatius offered a thirty day reprieve for the martyrs to consider their position.

During this time, however, Sebastian convinced the family of Marcus and Marcellianus to accept Christ. When the thirty days expired, Tranquillinus, the father of the young men, came before Chromatius and professed his own faith in Christ, mentioning that his gout had been cured following his baptism. As it turns out, Chromatius suffered from the same ailment and would later secretly summon Sebastian and the priest Polycarp so that they might also heal him. In order to effect the healing, Sebastian and Polycarp endured a three day fast, after which they returned to Chromatius and enjoined him to allow them to destroy all the pagan idols in his house. Chromatius agreed, and the two Christians proceeded to burn, smash, or melt down all of the 200 images of the pagan divinities in the house.

What happens next is very strange indeed, as it seems to tie this ancient Christian literary source to one of the most fascinating archaeological discoveries of the 20th century.

When Chromatius failed to recover after his house was cleansed, Sebastian and Polycarp then deduced that something evil must yet remain in his house. At this point, Chromatius reveals something interesting:

“I have in my treasure-chest a wonderful instrument, for my information, according to the position of the stars as they stand in the heavens. On that instrument Tarquinius, my father, spent of red gold alone more than two hundred pounds.”

Previously in the same narrative, this instrument is described as follows:

An excellent work of mechanical contrivance, of glass, and gold, and of glistening crystal. This instrument was designed to show with certainty by the stars what should happen to every man in the course of his life; but it was so formed according to the heathen error.

The remains of the so-called Antikythera Mechanism, believed to be an ancient machine used to compute the movement of the stars and planets.

Does this sound familiar? If you are at all aware of Mediterranean archaeology, it should. In 1901, some sponge divers found a strange ancient artifact in the waters off the Greek island of Antikythera. This item would become known as the Antikythera Mechanism, a type of ancient gear-driven computer used to predict the movements of the stars. It is tantalizing to think that this passage in the Passio of St. Sebastian is actually describing a similar type of machine. It may also be an indication that the Antikythera mechanism was not unique and that other similar devices were known even as late as the 5th century AD.

To get back to our narrative, Sebastian and Polycarp then discoursed to Chromatius upon the evils and vanity of astrology, indicating that the infernal machine must be disposed of. They even put their lives on the line, saying that if they broke the costly device and Chromatius did not recover from his illness, then they would submit to being thrown into a furnace and killed. Chromatius agreed. The device was broken. And Chromatius subsequently recovered. As a result, he and his son became Christians.

Now, certainly there will be some who will latch onto this episode as an example of Christians being so "anti-science" that they even destroyed a precious ancient computing device. Before advancing this claim, however, it is well to keep in mind that the device itself, as expensive and finely crafted as it may have been, was not actually used for any scientific purpose. It was used for the superstitious purpose of attempting to predict the future via the movement of the stars.

Chromatius subsequently resigned his position as Prefect of the city of Rome and was replaced by a certain Fabianus, a man who was much more zealous in carrying out the persecutions mandated by Diocletian against Christians than Chromatius had been. This Fabianus soon laid hold of Marcus and Marcellianus, tortured them, and put them to death. Soon after, he denounced Sebastian to Diocletian as well.

Given that Fabianus was, supposedly, the Prefect of Rome, it is reasonable to conjecture that the denunciation of Sebastian likely took place in AD 303 when Diocletian was in Rome for the celebration of his Vicennalia or 20th anniversary of his reign. This event was meant to be a great, two month long, triumphal festival commemorating the happy and prosperous reign of Diocletian and Maximian. There is evidence, however, that the event became tragic. The Chronography of AD 354 reports that during the event, 13,000 people were killed when the boxes at the circus collapsed. It is also possible that Pope Marcellinus was martyred during this time.

Writing in On the Deaths of the Persecutors, Lactantius claimed that Diocletian was so perturbed during the celebrations at Rome that he departed the city prematurely before his consulship could even begin on January 1. He would subsequently become gravely ill on his journey back to Nicomedia.

Let us assume that the unhappy vicennalia celebration at Rome is the setting for the scene described below in Aelfric’s homily as the dramatic conclusion of St. Sebastian's Passio:

Then became Diocletian fiendishly angry, and commanded him to be led out in hard bonds, into a field, and there to be bound, and assailed with arrows until he gave up his life. Then the soldiers led away the servant of Christ, and set him for a mark, even as the wicked man commanded, and fastened their arrows into him before and behind, as thickly on every side as a hedgehog's bristles, and so left him alone, lying for dead.

Then came a certain widow, who was a martyr's relict, in the same night, where he lay sorely wounded, desiring to bury his body, and found him living. Then she brought him to her house alive, and within a few days entirely healed him. Then came the Christians, and urged the [Christian] warrior, that he ought to depart far away from the city.

But Sebastian commended himself to God, and went up to the staircase, which stood against the emperor's palace, and when the emperor came, thus cried to him:

“Your idol-priests who dwell in your temples tell you many lies concerning the Christians, saying that they are verily adversaries to your kingdom, and also to your people; but your kingdom prospereth through their good merits, because they pray for the Roman people and for your dominion, without ceasing.”

Then looked Diocletian, the fiendish murderer, towards the holy man, who stood there so loftily, and said haughtily, “Art not thou that Sebastian, whom I before commanded to be slain with arrows?

Sebastian said, “Christ raised me up again to the end that I might declare to thee before all the people your unrighteous persecution against the Christians.”

Then bade the emperor that the soldier of God should be beaten to death with clubs within his own city. Then the murderers did even as the emperor commanded, and by night hid his holy corpse in a foul sewer, saying amongst themselves, that at least the Christians should not get at his body, and make him into a martyr afterwards.

The most ancient extant image of St. Sebastian, dating from the mid-6th century AD, may be found in Sant'Apollinare Nuovo in Ravenna.

Here again, we see a common theme—the desire of the persecutors to deny the martyr's body to the Christian community. But the Christians did find Sebastian’s remains. They were recovered by a widow named Lucina who claimed to have been visited by Sebastian in a dream.

The relics of St. Sebastian would then take on a life of their own, being first deposited in the catacombs at Rome. A basilica would be built over the site in the mid-4th century AD—San Sebastiano fuori le Mura—which would become on one of the seven pilgrim churches of Rome.

Some of his relics would eventually find their way to Soissons in France in the early 9th century where they would remain until they were plundered and thrown into a ditch by Calvinists in 1564.

It is said that a relic of the top of Sebastian’s cranium may be seen to this day in the church of St. Sebastian in Ebersberg, Bavaria.

A good summary of the remaining relics and their locations may be found in St. Sebastian's entry in Butler's Lives of the Saints.


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Could this late Roman account of the life and death of St. Sebastian include a description of an ancient computing device similar to the mysterious Antikythera Mechanism?
1 posted on 01/21/2022 7:34:58 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: ebb tide; Salvation; Mrs. Don-o

Catholic ping


2 posted on 01/21/2022 7:40:42 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Antoninus; SunkenCiv

Antikythera Mechanism PING!..................


3 posted on 01/21/2022 8:16:30 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Antoninus; Al Hitan; DuncanWaring; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; ...

Ping


4 posted on 01/21/2022 8:19:08 AM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: Antoninus

That is a truly fascinating article in many respects. Thanks for posting.


5 posted on 01/21/2022 9:16:29 AM PST by viewfromthefrontier
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To: viewfromthefrontier

I thought so too. Thanks!


6 posted on 01/21/2022 9:32:54 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Antoninus
--> It is said that a relic of the top of Sebastian’s cranium may be seen to this day in the church of St. Sebastian in Ebersberg, Bavaria. A good summary of the remaining relics and their locations may be found in St. Sebastian's entry in Butler's Lives of the Saints.

"Little children, keep yourself from idols." -Apostle John

7 posted on 01/21/2022 9:36:07 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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"Little children, keep yourself from idols." -Apostle John

You're not really claiming that the relics of the saints are "idols" are you?
8 posted on 01/21/2022 9:42:14 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Antoninus

They become idols when people idolize them.


9 posted on 01/21/2022 10:49:32 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

LOL. Well, I’ll not disagree with that. But what does it mean to “idolize” something? In pagan theology, the idol had power because the spirit of the demon had entered it. It became almost a living thing. No Christian that I ever heard of thought that the spirit of the deceased saint entered into the relic. If the relic had any “power” at all, it was because Almighty God chose to perform a miracle through the intercession of the saint involved. Even the very earliest Christians believed that which is why you have innumerable stories in antiquity of Christians retrieving the bodies of saints and pagans attempting to destroy the body to deny the Christians their relics.


10 posted on 01/21/2022 10:56:01 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Antoninus

No accounts of believers before100 ad idolizing relics - or Mary.

Or praying to either. Or bowing before either.


11 posted on 01/21/2022 11:00:02 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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Thanks Red Badger.

12 posted on 01/21/2022 11:08:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

So AD 100 is your arbitrary cut off date? That’s still at least 1500 years before your denomination rebelled.

And did you ever think that records might be scarse due to the church being persecuted for the first 400 years?


13 posted on 01/21/2022 11:11:51 AM PST by Texas_Guy
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Like how Protestants idolize their personal bibles?


14 posted on 01/21/2022 11:12:54 AM PST by Texas_Guy
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To: Texas_Guy

—> Like how Protestants idolize their personal bibles?

I am not aware of any that do - bow down before them, pray to them, etc.

BUT if they do, it is wrong.


15 posted on 01/21/2022 11:22:56 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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-->So AD 100 is your arbitrary cut off date? That’s still at least 1500 years before your denomination rebelled. The last Apostle was alive at that point. It is not arbitrary. It never appears in the Scripture that was circulated at that time. I use the Scriptures from 100 ad and before, as all believers do. I will take that as a simple acknowledgement that you have no scriptural or historical support from before 100 ad to support the practice was are discussing? -->And did you ever think that records might be scarse due to the church being persecuted for the first 400 years? Yet, Scripture survived and never records anyone praying to anyone except God - except the recorded prayers of pagans...
16 posted on 01/21/2022 11:26:57 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
No accounts of believers before100 ad idolizing relics - or Mary.

LOL. So AD 100 is your arbitrary date for where Christian practice "went off the rails." OK. To believe that, you have to assume that all of the relics of the Apostles that exist to this day are frauds. Is that correct?
17 posted on 01/21/2022 11:31:44 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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... So AD 100 is your arbitrary date for where Christian practice "went off the rails."

No. It the time of the last living Apostle. If it wasn't taught by apostles or included in Scripture by Apostles, it is false.

...To believe that, you have to assume that all of the relics of the Apostles that exist to this day are frauds. Is that correct?

No. You have to assume they should not be idolized, prayed to, bowed down before, etc.

18 posted on 01/21/2022 11:36:05 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
From the martyrdom account of Saint Polycarp, a disciple of St. John the Apostle, written ca. AD 150.

"The centurion then, seeing the strife excited by the Jews, placed the body in the midst of the fire, and consumed it. Accordingly, we afterwards took up his bones, as being more precious than the most exquisite jewels, and more purified than gold, and deposited them in a fitting place, whither, being gathered together, as opportunity is allowed us, with joy and rejoicing, the Lord shall grant us to celebrate the anniversary of his martyrdom, both in memory of those who have already finished their course, and for the exercising and preparation of those yet to walk in their steps." Source: The Martyrdom of Polycarp

Man, the Apostles really did a terrible job teaching their disciples, didn't they?
19 posted on 01/21/2022 11:36:53 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
You have to assume they should not be idolized, prayed to, bowed down before, etc.

Nobody does that. Asking the Saints to intercede has nothing to do with "idolizing" their relics. That's a faulty Protestant definition. Y'all miss out on a lot of graces by rejecting the intercession of the saints.
20 posted on 01/21/2022 11:38:50 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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