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BREAKING: 4 Cardinals release letter asking to meet Pope about ‘confusion and disorientation’
Life Site News ^ | June 20, 2017 | Pete Baklinski

Posted on 06/20/2017 6:04:05 AM PDT by NYer

ROME, June 19, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) -- Four Cardinals have publicly released their letter to the Pope from April 25, 2017 unsuccessfully asking him for a private audience to discuss “confusion and disorientation” within the Church after the publication of the Pope’s April 2016 Exhortation Amoris Laetitia.

In the letter Cardinals lament the great division in the Church on basic morality as a result of the pope's exhortation.

“And so it is happening — how painful it is to see this! — that what is sin in Poland is good in Germany, that what is prohibited in the archdiocese of Philadelphia is permitted in Malta," they wrote.

The Cardinals asked the Holy Father if during the audience he might answer their five original questions from last year regarding whether or not Amoris Laetitia conforms to perennial Catholic teaching. They also asked the Pope if they could discuss with him the “situation of confusion and disorientation” in the Church caused by “objectively ambiguous passages” in the Exhortation.

The letter was written by Cardinal Carlo Caffarra on behalf of Cardinals Walter Brandmüller, Raymond Burke, and Joachim Meisner.

The Cardinals begin their letter to the Pope by renewing their “absolute dedication and our unconditional love for the Chair of Peter and for Your august person, in whom we recognize the Successor of Peter and the Vicar of Jesus: the ‘sweet Christ on earth.’”

The Cardinals then state that it is the “awareness of the grave responsibility” of their office as “advisers of the Successor of Peter in his sovereign ministry” that moved them to ask the Pope for a meeting.

They wrote that they were still hoping that the Pope would “resolve uncertainties and to bring clarity on some points” of Amoris Laetitia as outlined in the dubia they delivered to the Pope and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith last September.

The Cardinals went public with their “dubia” in November after the Pope failed to give them a response. They had hoped that the Pope answering their five yes-or-no questions would dispel what they called the “uncertainty, confusion, and disorientation among many of the faithful” stemming from the controversial exhortation.

The five yes-or-no questions they asked were: 1) whether adulterers can receive Holy Communion; 2) whether there are absolute moral norms that must be followed “without exceptions”; 3) whether habitual adultery can be an “objective situation of grave habitual sin”; 4) whether an intrinsically evil act can be turned into a “‘subjectively’ good” act based on “circumstances or intentions”; and 5) whether one can act contrary to known “absolute moral norms that prohibit intrinsically evil acts” based on “conscience.”

“Not having received any response from Your Holiness, we have reached the decision to ask You, respectfully and humbly, for an Audience, together if Your Holiness would like,” the Cardinals wrote in their April 25 letter.

The Cardinals state that since Amoris Laetitia’s release a year ago, “interpretations of some objectively ambiguous passages…have publicly been given that are not divergent from but contrary to the permanent Magisterium of the Church.”

“Despite the fact that the Prefect of the Doctrine of the Faith has repeatedly declared that the doctrine of the Church has not changed, numerous statements have appeared from individual Bishops, Cardinals, and even Episcopal Conferences, approving what the Magisterium of the Church has never approved,” the letter states.

“Not only access to the Holy Eucharist for those who objectively and publicly live in a situation of grave sin, and intend to remain in it, but also a conception of moral conscience contrary to the Tradition of the Church,” it adds.

Indeed, earlier this month Argentinian Bishop Angel José Macin of the diocese of Reconquista celebrated a special Mass for civilly-divorced-and-remarried couples currently living in adultery in which they were all invited to receive Holy Communion.

The exhortation has been used by various bishops and bishops’ groups, including those in ArgentinaMaltaGermany, and Belgium, to issue pastoral guidelines that allow Communion to be given to civilly-divorced-and-remarried Catholics living in adultery. But bishops in Canada and Poland have issued statements based on their reading of the same document that forbids such couples to receive Communion.

States the Cardinal’s letter: “And so it is happening — how painful it is to see this! — that what is sin in Poland is good in Germany, that what is prohibited in the archdiocese of Philadelphia is permitted in Malta. And so on. One is reminded of the bitter observation of B. Pascal: ‘Justice on this side of the Pyrenees, injustice on the other; justice on the left bank of the river, injustice on the right bank.’”

“Faced with this grave situation, in which many Christian communities are being divided, we feel the weight of our responsibility, and our conscience impels us to ask humbly and respectfully for an Audience,” the letter concludes.

Cardinal Burke has stated that if Pope Francis refuses to clarify the ambiguities in the exhortation, then the cardinals would issue a “formal correction” of the document.

“There is, in the Tradition of the Church, the practice of correction of the Roman Pontiff. It is something that is clearly quite rare. But if there is no response to these questions, then I would say that it would be a question of taking a formal act of correction of a serious error,” said Burke in a November 2016 interview.

Cardinal Caffarra's full letter to Pope Francis:

 

Cardinal Caffarra Letter to Pope Francis, April, 2017 (PDF)


Cardinal Caffarra Letter to Pope Francis, April, 2017 (Text)


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1 posted on 06/20/2017 6:04:06 AM PDT by NYer
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FULL TITLE: BREAKING: Four Cardinals release letter asking to meet Pope about ‘confusion and disorientation’ in Church

Catholic ping!

2 posted on 06/20/2017 6:05:03 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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A meeting with Francis would be a total waste of time. Francis is a committed socialist and will do all he can to mold Church doctrine and policies to be in line with his political agenda. He is not concerned with the finer points of theology. However it is those finer points that underpin the legitimacy and moral framework of the Church. From a Catholic long perspective, it is the belief that the Christ will be with the Church until the end of time and it will survive its external and internal challenges that should sustain the Cardinals. The Church has survived prior bad popes.


3 posted on 06/20/2017 6:13:41 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: NYer

Who cares?


4 posted on 06/20/2017 6:21:38 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Cobra64

Who cares is right this is a fake Pope.


5 posted on 06/20/2017 6:24:05 AM PDT by angcat (THANK YOU LORD FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!!!)
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To: NYer

Essentially, dissent in the Church does not exist. There is one authority.

This pope is unfit for the office and must resign.

He facilitated the Iran nuclear deal and the Cuba deal.
By those actions he disqualified himself from office.


6 posted on 06/20/2017 6:24:22 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Le Pen: "Islamism is a totalitarian ideology that has declared war on our nation, on civilization.")
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To: NYer

The Impopester has a mission.
Destroy the Catholic Church and prepare the sheep for slaughter by the muslims.


7 posted on 06/20/2017 6:36:23 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: NYer

The current pope isn’t very catholic...


8 posted on 06/20/2017 6:40:20 AM PDT by glasseye
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To: angcat; Cobra64
Who cares is right this is a fake Pope.

When Honorius I was condemned by the Third Council of Constantinople, when the Avignon papacy mess was finally resolved, did it all just magically right itself?

Or did there have to be confrontations between one side and the other? Councils and synods and debates?

If the Pope is a fake pope, as you claim, do you think the Vatican going to wake up one day and say so, or do you think it will be a messy process of sorting all of this out, of arguments and debates, and determining the facts of the case?

I care because this Pope needs to be corrected and someone is actually trying to do it. This is how the Church goes about correcting a Pope: patiently, methodically, and with a clear historical paper trail so that Catholics in future ages can judge the case.

Even if this Pope is never corrected in his lifetime, the correction has to be offered and registered and, perhaps, ultimately refused. Then, something like what happened with Honorius and Sergius, a future Pope and Council can say Francis was asked point blank to clarify his teaching and he refused to do his duty. He could then be condemned on that basis, and orthodoxy will be vindicated in spite of him.

9 posted on 06/20/2017 6:50:38 AM PDT by Claud
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To: NYer

It’s the same thing the Methodists are going through. The UMC wants to go full LGBT in the US but Asia and Africa will leave over it. So they want to come up with a plan that says “It is OK where it is accepted”.

Lose-lose.


10 posted on 06/20/2017 6:54:34 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: allendale

A meeting with Francis would be a total waste of time.


I would guess that the Cardinals regard this request for a meeting to be a necessary step leading up to writing a correction.


11 posted on 06/20/2017 6:54:56 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: NYer

Trying to get a meeting to discuss things with this guy is not going to be successful. Perhaps they should go directly to the top and ask for intervention.


12 posted on 06/20/2017 6:57:01 AM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: NYer

Good news.

We must pray unceasingly for these brave cardinals.


13 posted on 06/20/2017 7:03:55 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America.)
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To: NYer

This Pope has been superseded by almost a dozen others in his false theories of the Church.

Our churches fail us. Not only Catholic, but churches of all faith.

John Adams: “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

With no basis on FAITH and Religion, we’re no nation. As government is infiltrated by socialists who annihilate our faith, our Constitution (its rules and laws), becomes less and less relevant.

Our enemies made their way through the back door and now hold the door open for others.

OUR AMERICAN LEADERS had best awaken or be rendered obsolete.


14 posted on 06/20/2017 7:12:55 AM PDT by V K Lee (DJT: "Sometimes by losing a battle you find a new way to win the war. ")
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To: NYer

Who cares! The commie Pope installed at the Vatican to promote the NWO.


15 posted on 06/20/2017 7:25:30 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: NYer

***272 days*** Since Francis Received Cardinals’ Dubia on Amoris Laetitiia.


16 posted on 06/20/2017 7:28:39 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: BobinIL
Who cares!

I care. Souls are going to Hell because of Francis.

17 posted on 06/20/2017 7:44:09 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: NYer
Sister Lucia dos Santos, one of the three children who witnessed the Marian apparitions at Fatima, died in 2005. But before her death, she predicted that the final battle between Christ and Satan would be over marriage and the family.
18 posted on 06/20/2017 7:48:29 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: allendale
A meeting with Francis would be a total waste of time.

Just following the procedure given by our Lord:

If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won over your brother. If he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, so that ‘every fact may be established on the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church. If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector. (Matt. 18:15-17)

19 posted on 06/20/2017 7:58:18 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: V K Lee
John Adams: “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

How did he know about the democrats?

20 posted on 06/20/2017 8:29:48 AM PDT by Know et al ( Keep on Freepin'!!!)
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