Posted on 05/22/2017 7:51:58 AM PDT by Salvation
The snatching away ... coming soon to a planet near home. Woe to those who are not snatched away. They may still end up in Heaven (Revelation says so) but they will likely lose their head getting there when they call upon The Lord during antiChrist’s reign.
That’s the role we were given to play.
Wrong: unlike Catholic councils and popes, Scripture is wholly inspired of God and has Him as its Author, and even in RC theology we read:
Inspiration signifies a special positive Divine influence and assistance by reason of which the human agent is not merely preserved from liability to error but is so guided and controlled that what he says or writes is truly the word of God, that God Himself is the principal author of the inspired utterance; but infallibility merely implies exemption from liability to error. God is not the author of a merely infallible, as He is of an inspired, utterance; the former remains a merely human document. ..not that either the pope or the Fathers of the Council are inspired as were the writers of the Bible or that any new revelation is embodied in their teaching. (Catholic Encyclopedia>Infallibility; http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07790a.htm. emp. mine.
You may be referring to this parody: Triablogue: 51 Biblical Proofs Of A Pauline Papacy And Ephesian Primacy
The Peter of Rome is not that of Scripture , that of the street-level leader among the apostles and initially that of the church. Paul was hardly RC in his writings, rarely mentioning the supposed supreme head of The Church, never enjoining obedience to him or prayers for him in particular, etc. or otherwise describing him as a RC pope, and listing him after James as one of 3 who appeared to be pillars, and then publicly rebuking him.
We can say it in five lines; I guess.
If we don’t, it is REALLY a mess!
Most contain some fine truth;
if it don’t: well FORSOOTHE!
But it’s fun, I must simply confess.
It appears that some are more easily “guided” than others.
Good point.
But what she REALLY means is...
Where is the CONCEPT of pope?
We can PROVE the concept of Rapture, and Sola.
We TarBabies should NEVER reply to a passing rabbit.
I’ve found it quite helpful to let the lying dogs sleep as well.
--Catholic_Wannabe_Dude(Hail Mary!!)
Don't they actually put tradition ABOVE written scripture?
Luke 17:34-35 English Standard Version (ESV)34 I tell you, in that night there will be two in one bed. One will be taken and the other left. 35 There will be two women grinding together. One will be taken and the other left.”
Matthew 24:40-41
40Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
I think an answer to your question can be found by searching FR for how they manage to slither out of a CLEAR COMMAND of Jesus: CAll no man father.
You should state that this is an opinion.
With regard to those truths connected to revelation by historical necessity and which are to be held definitively, but are not able to be declared as divinely revealed, the following examples can be given: the legitimacy of the election of the Supreme Pontiff or of the celebration of an ecumenical council, the canonizations of saints (dogmatic facts), the declaration of Pope Leo XIII in the Apostolic Letter Apostolicae Curae on the invalidity of Anglican ordinations ...37
In context, two basic classes of teachings requiring assent are being dealt with:
The first paragraph [of the Professio fidei] states: "With firm faith, I also believe everything contained in the Word of God, whether written or handed down in Tradition, which the Church, either by a solemn judgment or by the ordinary and universal Magisterium, sets forth to be believed as divinely revealed." The object taught in this paragraph is constituted by all those doctrines of divine and catholic faith which the Church proposes as divinely and formally revealed and, as such, as irreformable.
These doctrines require the assent of theological faith by all members of the faithful. Thus, whoever obstinately places them in doubt or denies them falls under the censure of heresy, as indicated by the respective canons of the Codes of Canon Law...
The second proposition of the Professio fidei states: "I also firmly accept and hold each and everything definitively proposed by the Church regarding teaching on faith and morals."
The object taught by this formula includes all those teachings belonging to the dogmatic or moral area,13 which are necessary for faithfully keeping and expounding the deposit of faith, even if they have not been proposed by the Magisterium of the Church as formally revealed..
Such doctrines can be defined solemnly by the Roman Pontiff when he speaks 'ex cathedra' or by the College of Bishops gathered in council, or they can be taught infallibly by the ordinary and universal Magisterium of the Church as a "sententia definitive tenenda".14 Every believer, therefore, is required to give firm and definitive assent to these truths, based on faith in the Holy Spirit's assistance to the Church's Magisterium, and on the Catholic doctrine of the infallibility of the Magisterium in these matters.15 Whoever denies these truths would be in a position of rejecting a truth of Catholic doctrine16 and would therefore no longer be in full communion with the Catholic Church.
The truths belonging to this second paragraph can be of various natures, thus giving different qualities to their relationship with revelation. There are truths which are necessarily connected with revelation by virtue of an historical relationship; while other truths evince a logical connection that expresses a stage in the maturation of understanding of revelation which the Church is called to undertake. - Rome, from the offices of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, June 29, 1998, the Solemnity of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul. + Joseph Card. Ratzinger Prefect; http://www.ewtn.com/library/CURIA/CDFADTU.HTM
I know we are not supposed to cross threads, but the one THIS is in is now LOCKED.
What am I to do??
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I wish you quit posting what my chosen religion’s official officials have written about certain subjects.
It’s making us less learned Catholics look; well; foolish.
—Catholic_Wannbe_Dude(Hail Mary!!)
You see amazing miracles intermingled with crowd threats and 'righteous dudes' setting to stone your Messiah, only to have Him pass through them, unassailed!
You witness feeding thousands with the lunch pail of a child. You see Him walking on water and try to join Him, only to be overtaken by your natural doubts.
You see the authorities of Churcha nd state seize Him and hold a trial, proclaiming Him a fraud to be executed.
Then mysteriously, because you are not well versed in the Scriptures, He amazingly survives a Roman Crucifixion? Except He suddenly appears in a locked and shuttered room to show you HE did what He told folks He would do if they destroyed the Temple of His body!
Imagine what it must have left Peter pondering when THIS MESSIAH leaves into the clouds right before your astonished eyes, and yo uare left remembering HIS advice to wait for the Day of Pentecost.
You wait and lo and behold a miraculous things happen when you simply describe the events of the past several weeks, then things get chaotic in the capital city and the authorities throw you in prison, whip you, then let you go, then hound you into leaving Jerusalem for a friend's house.
You have a dream, but you awake to realize it was not a dream and people are at the front door downstairs, sent to find you by a Roman Centurion!
You go with the visitors and lo and behold a similar miraculous pouring out of GOD's Spirit happens while you're trying to relate the events of Messiah's FIRST visit to the planet! But these are GENTILES!
And that doesn't even address your failure to remain faithful during the arrest and trial and crucifixion of you Messiah ... you didn't even go to the execution to give HIM morale support, after denying HIM!
BUT God is the faithful and loving parent Who has Promised to raise you up in the way that you should go, so you are never tossed aside, despite your failures to grasp it all while living it!
Yeah, I can identify with the Peter of Scripture. Thanks be to GOD!
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