It is the Decision of the Holy Spirit and Us – A Reflection on the Catholicity of the Early Church

We'd both learn a lot more, I think, and appreciate each other better,if we would ASK the other person what they believe,

OK; I will.

Could you please explain WHY you left off the verses leading up to the one you posted?

It CLEARLY shows that 'listening to the church' is intended for a dispute between believers.

Posting the verse along with the reply you made...

People who don’t appreciate hierarchy won’t appreciate the Book of Acts or the Epistles, where we see the basic hierarchy of diaconoi - presbyteroi-episcopoi being established by the calling of select men and the laying on of hands; and, as Fr. Pope’s article points out, the calling of authoritative councils and synods.
Tagline, from Matthew — a direct quote from Jesus.

...shows something quite different than what you are trying to explain away here:

The verse about listening to the church in no way establishes it as an ultimate hierarchical system that Rome has become."

Did I write that? I certainly did not, nor did I imply it, nor did I think it.

301 posted on 05/29/2017 8:02:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

A dispute between believers is exactly what I was referring to.

302 posted on 05/30/2017 9:26:50 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Pray for the *%$#. It's the only way to help them, or you, become a bit worthier as a human being.)

To: Mrs. Don-o; metmom

A dispute between believers is exactly what I was referring to.

Then you possess the most OBSCURE way of 'referring' to something I've EVER seen!

People who don’t appreciate hierarchy won’t appreciate the Book of Acts or the Epistles, where we see the basic hierarchy of diaconoi - presbyteroi-episcopoi being established by the calling of select men and the laying on of hands; and, as Fr. Pope’s article points out, the calling of authoritative councils and synods.

303 posted on 05/30/2017 5:15:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

304 posted on 05/30/2017 5:34:30 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Genius is of little use to a woman who doesn't know what to do with her hair." - Edith Wharton)

You’re floating like a butterfly.

305 posted on 05/31/2017 4:45:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

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