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Is This Cave in Turkey the Place Where Saint Peter Celebrated Mass?
Aletelial ^ | June 22, 2016 | Daniel Esparza

Posted on 06/29/2016 4:03:52 PM PDT by NYer

Chapter 11 of the Acts of the Apostles says that Antioch was the city in which, for the first time, the disciples of Jesus were called “Christians.” Tradition has enthroned Peter as the founder of the Church of Antioch, following the narration of the very same Book of Acts, which tells not only of the arrival of Peter and Barnabas to the Turkish city, but also of their preaching.

Moreover, this very same tradition claims that it was in the Knisset Mar Semaan Kefa (“Grotto of St. Peter” in Aramaic) where Peter would celebrate the Eucharist for this community. That is to say, this little cave could be the first place of worship of the ancient Church of Antioch.

Located in one of the slopes of Mount Starius, the cave has a depth of just thirteen meters and a height of seven, from floor to ceiling. The oldest parts of the building we see today, built around the original, simple cave dug in the mountain, are from the 4th and 5th centuries, and include a series of mosaic floors and a few frescoes which have been preserved on the right side of the altar.

Centuries ago, a series of small aqueducts brought water (considered miraculous) from nearby springs into a small designated area where baptisms were celebrated, but a series of relatively recent earthquakes rendered these channels useless.

When the Crusaders took Antioch during the First Crusade in 1098, a facade was added to the cave, which was rebuilt eight centuries later, in 1863, by Capuchin friars, by order of Pope Pius IX.

Today, the cave is only used as a museum, but, with permission, some religious ceremonies are held, especially on Feb. 21, the day on which Antioch celebrates the feast of their patron, Saint Peter.

Today, the cave is only used as a museum, but, with permission, some religious ceremonies are held, especially on Feb. 21, the day which celebrates the region San Pedro as their patron.


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Worship
KEYWORDS: antioch; christendom; churchhistory; churchofantioch; holyland; mountstarius; turkey
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To: metmom; knarf; MHGinTN; mrobisr
Why do Catholic ignore Scripture? Why do they claim that it doesn't mean what it says?

I don't know MM. Maybe because the priests told me that. I was, on the other hand, a super rebellious Catholic. When they told me I couldn't read the Bible for myself, it was like putting a red cape in front of a bull.
The first thing I did, was to get a Bible, and read it for myself. Now, I am glad I WAS so rebellious. Now I know the truth.
Excuse me while I commit the sin of presumption, as I go enjoy my assurance of salvation. It's a beautiful thing, wouldn't you say? 😄

181 posted on 07/19/2016 11:35:28 PM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forevermore endure.)
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To: Mark17

Sin of presumption?

Which of the Ten Commandments is it again?

I’ve been looking in Scripture and have not yet found that sin cited anywhere. Do you have a chapter and verse for it?


182 posted on 07/20/2016 12:05:30 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
I’ve been looking in Scripture and have not yet found that sin cited anywhere. Do you have a chapter and verse for it

Why yes. It's in Mark 17. 😃😀 It's the only sin I enjoy committing. 😇😆

183 posted on 07/20/2016 12:35:47 AM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forevermore endure.)
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To: metmom
Not a one of us has ever called ourselves *anti-Catholic*.


Augustine and Basil on the distinction between heretics and schismatics.

Augustine eventually came to define heretics as those who "in holding false opinions regarding God, do injury to the faith itself," as distinguished from schismatics, who "in wicked separations break off from brotherly charity, although they may believe just what we believe."

184 posted on 07/20/2016 4:58:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Why do you keep repeating this LIE?

After 5 days; it appears that no reason will be forthcoming.

185 posted on 07/20/2016 4:59:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: maryz
I don’t know your background, but your posts seem to exhibit all the earmarks and drawbacks of the autodidact, and it’s too hot here to try untangling them.

I submit this to the jury:

A fine example of an accusation with NO evidence to back it up.

186 posted on 07/20/2016 5:01:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
I note all the churches in the Bible were catholic. Those with error, whom the Messiah loved, he rebuked and warned.

Why the HELL should any CATHOLIC church have ERROR to begin with?

The Seven in Revelation were REALLY messed up!

This is glossed over and/or ignored by our FR Catholics.

If you guys wanna claim the 'church' has been 'Catholic' from Day One; then you MUST admit to teaching falsehoods as well!

187 posted on 07/20/2016 5:04:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
And consider, at least the catholic churches in Revelation were genuine churches.

And GENUINELY teaching ERROR!

188 posted on 07/20/2016 5:05:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mrobisr
Galatians 2:20
And I live, now not I; but Christ liveth in me.

DETAILS...


189 posted on 07/20/2016 5:06:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: D-fendr
Scripture according to you.

WOW!


190 posted on 07/20/2016 5:07:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: D-fendr
Some scripture, you hear in accordance with Protestant traditon, other you ignore or wish away or explain away as something meaning not what it says, a ‘symbol.’:

Some scripture, you hear in accordance with Catholic teaching/traditon, other you ignore or wish away or explain away as something meaning not what it says:

Call no man Father...


191 posted on 07/20/2016 5:09:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Augustine and Basil on the distinction between heretics and schismatics.
Augustine eventually came to define heretics as those who "in holding false opinions regarding God, do injury to the faith itself," as distinguished from schismatics, who "in wicked separations break off from brotherly charity, although they may believe just what we believe."

192 posted on 07/20/2016 5:10:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Why do Catholic ignore Scripture? Why do they claim that it doesn't mean what it says?

Likewise...


Why do Liberals ignore the Constitution? Why do they claim that it doesn't mean what it says?

193 posted on 07/20/2016 5:11:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mrobisr; D-fendr
The Lord's Table not only points to (JESUS said do this in/as REMEMBRANCE) the Cross, by participating in the Lord's Table with His work for us in focus we make a spiritual link, a lock-on to the Grace of God in Christ.

JESUS explained it to His disciples: John 6:61 And Jesus having known in himself that his disciples are murmuring about this, said to them, ‘Doth this stumble you? 62 if then ye may behold the Son of Man going up where he was before? 63 the spirit it is that is giving life; the flesh doth not profit anything; the sayings that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life; [Young's Literal Translation]

194 posted on 07/20/2016 6:28:44 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: Mark17

LOL!!!


195 posted on 07/20/2016 7:48:34 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
😃😀😎😄👍
196 posted on 07/20/2016 9:48:31 AM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forevermore endure.)
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To: metmom

>>>>Call no man “father.”

Or Mister (master) or teacher (rabbi)..

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/call-no-man-father


197 posted on 07/20/2016 5:53:54 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: metmom
Again:
"The fact is that Christ’s flesh avails much! If it were of no avail, then the Son of God incarnated for no reason, he died for no reason, and he rose from the dead for no reason. Christ’s flesh profits us more than anyone else’s in the world. If it profits us nothing, so that the incarnation, death, and resurrection of Christ are of no avail, then "your faith is futile and you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished" (1 Cor. 15:17b–18).
Christ in the Eucharist
198 posted on 07/20/2016 6:52:18 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: MHGinTN

>>>>”JESUS said do this in/as REMEMBRANCE

If you mother tells you to mow the lawn, take care of your sister, whatever, “in remembrance” of her, do you think she means to do so symbolically? Symbolically mow the grass or whatever?

No. “In remembrance” in no way changes what we are to do.

>>>”we make a spiritual link, a lock-on to the Grace of God in Christ.”

Well, yeah, in a new agey way of trying to say something.

You have what you are somewhat trying to say in the Holy Eucharist as Christ, His Apostles and His Church teach.


199 posted on 07/20/2016 7:54:38 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
IF you read the entire of chapter six in John's Gospel, you will PERHAPS catch on to the context in which Jesus, yes JESUS says the flesh profiteth nothing, it is the SPIRIT which give life. His words, they are spirit AND LIFE.

I ask you, does the body Jesus now occupies have blood distributing LIFE to it? The LIFE of the creature is in the blood. The blood is not the life, the blood carries the LIFE.

At you religion's Mass, you are told you eat the body blood soul and DIVINITY of Jesus The Christ. You priests are claimed to bring Jesus from Heaven to continue the sacrifice of His body and blood. But the Body Jesus now indwells does not have blood carrying The LIFE throughout. God has another way to grace the physical body with LIFE. JESUS gave you a huge hint at the end of chapter six in John's Gospel ... it is the spirit that gives life, the words Jesus speaks, they are spirit and life.

So, are you thinking now? Or just searching for catechismic dissonance?

200 posted on 07/20/2016 8:30:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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