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[Catholic Caucus] Archbishop assails Trump over birthright citizenship repeal
AP ^ | 9/2/15

Posted on 09/02/2015 3:42:25 AM PDT by markomalley

The leader of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Philadelphia on Tuesday attacked Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump's call for ending automatic citizenship for children born to immigrants living illegally in the U.S., saying the idea "plays on our worst fears and resentments."

"Some in public life — notably, but not only, Donald Trump — have called for an end to birthright citizenship," Archbishop Charles Chaput said in remarks prepared for a church forum that was part of the run-up of activities to a visit later this month by Pope Francis. "This is a profoundly bad idea."

The archbishop said he hoped immigration would be a key part of the discussions during the Vatican-sponsored World Meeting of Families in Philadelphia and the pope's appearance during the closing weekend.

The pope has decried what he has called the "inhuman" conditions facing migrants crossing the U.S.-Mexico border, and encouraged frontier communities to not judge people by stereotypes but rather welcome migrants and work to end discrimination.

Without at first mentioning Trump by name, Chaput began his remarks by declaring: "At least one of our presidential candidates has already made the national immigration debate ugly with a great deal of belligerent bombast."

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To: Claud
What is this theological principle by which immigrants have no duty to respect the laws of the nation to which they migrate?

It's the principle of mystical nationalism which the Left has pushed since the end of World War II.

Hispanics (or Latinos, both words ironically of European origin) are the original autochthonous or indigenous people of the Western Hemisphere who grew organically out of the very soil of their Mystical Motherland. Whites or Europeans or Westerners or whatever you wish to call them are "foreign devils" who are occupying conquered territory where they have no business being.

Since WWII he Left has been all about reverse Hitlerism. The Left originally was internationalist, universalist, and class-centered, championing coal miners and lumberjacks. Now coal miners and lumberjacks are redneck rapists of Mother Earth and her "indigenous" children.

Interestingly, this adoption of reverse Nazi mystical nationalism is also why the Left turned against the Jews (all mystical nationalists, right or left, hate the Jews). Ironically, at first the Jews and Israel benefited from this as the Communist world supported them for a brief time (and longer inside the United States). But now in the name of opposing Nazism the Left wants to kill Jews to fuel a mystical blood-and-soil nationalist ideology for anti-Semites, supposedly of color.

The Left is certifiably insane.

21 posted on 09/02/2015 8:56:42 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: yongin
i expect pope francis to declare trump’s plan to be sinful without refering him by name. then the media will egg trump to insult the pope. can trump resist?

Why should he?

22 posted on 09/02/2015 9:01:54 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: Faith Presses On

The 14th Amendment was written to ensure the perpetual rights of the children of slaves were preserved. In other words the blacks. If I were black, I’d be incensed at how a law written to protect my people was being usurped and indeed abused by people who not only don’t want to assimilate into our culture, but also who steal jobs away from my own race.

It’s amazing how much abuse the blacks in this country are willing to take from their defacto modern-day slave masters (the Democrat party). It’s like they (the blacks) don’t care at all to think for themselves.

As for the OP: oh well. Thank God the Church doesn’t live or die by what some American bishops believe. That’s all I can say.


23 posted on 09/02/2015 9:04:31 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Interesting. And it’s noteworthy that even before WWII socialists were transforming into mystic nationalists with apparently little provocation. Mussolini case in point.

I put no stock in the distinction between European left and right. They both seem to deify the state, so neither interests me.


24 posted on 09/02/2015 9:30:43 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud
But our nation could be far more charitable by simply expanding legal immigration from Mexico addressing the fact that a nation producing a cumulative stream of refugees exceeding half the current population is a failed state.
25 posted on 09/02/2015 9:53:21 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: miss marmelstein

“The 14th Amendment does not say anyone born here is a citizen.”

Really?

“Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

You were thinking perhaps of another 14th Amendment?

“It’s been interpreted as such by corrupt judges but that’s another story.”

That’s a pretty serious charge which, among others, has, as I suspect you can appreciate, attracted attention to this website of the sort the owners probably don’t want. Who are these “corrupt judges” and how were they corrupted?


26 posted on 09/02/2015 2:48:33 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis

Try “subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” genius. And the comments of the man who wrote it.


27 posted on 09/02/2015 2:50:23 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Kolokotronis

P.S.: Are you an American? Do you believe that a nation can stand without borders?


28 posted on 09/02/2015 2:55:40 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein

“Try “subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” genius.”

Insofar as citizenship is concerned, all American citizens are subject to the jurisdiction of the Untied States.

You still haven’t answered my question. Who are the corrupt judges you write about. There are people in Fresno who are interested....


29 posted on 09/02/2015 2:57:28 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis

The corrupt judges who ignore the reality of the 14th amendment and attempt to grant citizenship to anchor babies. I would throw in Jeb Bush for good measure.

“Jurisdiction” does not mean the United States - unless it does. If the parents’ jurisdiction is either Mexico or some other country, the baby is not an American citizen.


30 posted on 09/02/2015 3:01:07 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein

Who are the corrupt judges? It’s a fair question. If you want to use this site to slander the federal judiciary, you should be readt and able to back up the charges. The consequences, at least to this site initially, are not good.

BTW, get your law degree in a crackerjacks box?


31 posted on 09/02/2015 3:04:09 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis

No, I listen to Constitutional expert, Mark Levin. Who do you listen to? The Pope?

And if you don’t know that my country (and I’m still not sure it’s yours) is overrun with corrupt judges, you are as stupid as you accuse me of being.

The 14th amendment has a clause within it that determines that people who have no connection to America - and yet are born within it - are NOT American citizens.

My Constitution was written in simple, easy English so that people like you could read it clearly and interpret it correctly.


32 posted on 09/02/2015 3:09:52 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein

“No, I listen to Constitutional expert, Mark Levin.”

WOW! A noted constitutional expert if ever there was one!/s

“And if you don’t know that my country (and I’m still not sure it’s yours) is overrun with corrupt judges, you are as stupid as you accuse me of being.”

Who are they? You don’t know, do you! You just want to use this site to slander the judiciary and hope that it’s FR and not you who pays the proper and appropriate and lawful consequences! By the way, is it Mark Levin who told you our federal judiciary is corrupt?

BTW, my first ancestor in the country arrived at Cape Ann in 1623. How about you?


33 posted on 09/02/2015 3:17:30 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis

“Far, far better than silly Americans.”

I thought I remembered some knock on Americans from you. Are you in Canada? Come on, I’ll tell you where I am if you tell me where you are.


34 posted on 09/02/2015 3:18:48 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein

Who are the judges you have used FR to libel?

You’ll hear plenty of knocks from me on silly Americans, especially when it comes to idiotic foreign policy. And no, I’m not from or in Canada and I am a member of the SAR.


35 posted on 09/02/2015 3:22:42 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis
I don't give a good goddam where your ancestors were from. My ancestors came legally to this country in the 19th century and were committed patriots. They joined the Republic Party and never wavered into 2015.

Mark Levin is, indeed, a Constitutional expert. Try bashing him and see what freepers say about that. Are you a Constitutional expert? If so, we'd all love to here your opinion on the 14th.

I notice you still don't say where you live. Why? Scared a freeper is going to come and spook you? Or are you a Pope Francis flunkie who buys every piece of hick sentiment he spews?

36 posted on 09/02/2015 3:34:30 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Kolokotronis

Why are you so secretive as to where you live?


37 posted on 09/02/2015 3:35:14 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein

I have never been secretive about where I live. Virtually every Freeper who knows me knows where I live. Many have actually visited here. I just don’t want you to know. It’s more fun that way!


38 posted on 09/02/2015 3:40:46 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis

It’s not fun for you; it’s a pathetic excuse. Get lost.


39 posted on 09/02/2015 3:53:23 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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