Posted on 07/09/2015 9:33:36 AM PDT by RnMomof7
Manna has nothing to do with this, but was food supplied by God from Heaven, and I don’t know why one would even want to try to duplicate or revive something that would turn to wormy garbage if it was kept overnight, and I don’t know what the purpose would be. I wouldn’t waste time on that, nor of inventing shoes and shirts that wouldn’t wear out in forty years. I’d get kind of tired of all this, and want some new clothes, and onions, and garlic as well. Apparently manna was pretty bland and without much texture.
I agree, who would want to try to duplicate this food supplied by God from Heaven.
My question is somewhat of a sidebar.
If there is a desire to represent manna, such as in a play depicting the Israelites gathering and eating manna, is there a better earthly substance to use than matzos?
Rome says that only IT has the ‘authority’ to ‘interpret’.
Bull malarkey. Charismatics are such a step child in the Church that our leaders barely recognize speaking in tongues, much less interpreting tongues.
Jello.
Gummy bears are the same thing only less water. Gelatin, sugar, flavoring, and water. Gerlatin could be like manna, in a pinch.
More simple is just to get a package of unflavored, uncolored gelatin, dissolve it in hot water, pour it out into a coolie sheet to be thin, let it harden, and strip it off the cookie sheet, then cut it up into flakes with scissors.
Voila! Pseudo-manna!
Maybe manna was just bug-eggs dissolved in rain and hardened. Figure that out --
As Sam McCloud would say, there you go.
Come home.
Maybe manna was just bug-eggs dissolved in rain and hardened. Figure that out —
You may have something, there. One day when I was playing volleyball, one of the women in the game accidentally swallowed a bug. Her reaction was, oh good, protein.
From the beginning of Romans and since my earliest days of pondering this stuff, I have always tended more to Justin Martyr's view than to Tertullian’s. It was he who famously demanded, “What has Athens to do with Jerusalem?”
For: What OTHER than Logos shall we use to discuss the question of the place of Logos in the Christian proclamation?
And I think it no accident that Tertullian ended up a Montanist. If reason is discarded, what is left but ecstasy (bogus or not) and passion? We may disagree about reinen Vernunft (pure reason), but we will carry out that disagreement either with reason or with insults and stones.
There is a KIND of QUASI-dualism in monotheism, but if we are going to claim ONE God and then claim the Son is rightly called Word and Truth, then to study Logos itself is to come at least as close as the woman who touched the fringe of our Lord's garment.
And when she did so, He asked, “Who touched ME?” not, “Who touched my clothes?” I think, always assuming grace and election, that the sincere and humble quest into Logos can bring one within healing distance of Jesus.
Now, it seems clear to me that one can make an idol of Reason as easily as one can of a certain collection of feelings. And just as our feelings are disordered -- so that some feel guilty when they aren't or don't feel guilty when they are, so reason is weak in many ways. It is too subject to passion, so that judiciousness is a virtue, a habit of excellence, helped or not by disposition. And even judicious people err. (Not ME, of course, but I have seen others err.)
But it is humans IHS came to save. He came to perfect, not obliterate, their nature, even if the perfection comes through death. So I cannot see the total rejection of the Greeks or even some of the more recent thinkers, including the scoundrel Heidegger, as implied in accepting and receiving IHS as God's perfect self-disclosure.
P.S. It might be helpful for me to add that I think poetry is the highest form of human discourse.
As for the spring feasts, Jesus fulfilled each one on the very day of the feasts, as (I) previously noted. Christ honored and fulfilled the Passover by His death. He honored and fulfilled the Feast of Unleavened Bread by His burial. Christ honored and fulfilled the Feast of First Fruits by His resurrection from the grave. Christ honored and fulfilled the Feast of Pentecost by sending the Holy Spirit fifty days after His resurrection.
I’ll be interested to know your response to my saying that that is a VERY Catholic thing to say! Stunning typology!
And while you seem to be in a mood to answer questions, if you eat the divinity of Jesus and get Him into you, why do you not have eternal life in the now as you walk away from the altar of the Catholic Mass?
Better watch out. Them Orthodox have Holy Mysteries, Holy Tradition and the Holy Theotokos.
Thus what I wrote about Logos is, if not confirmed, certainly exampled.
1 Cor 15:51 -53 Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.…
1Thess4:13-17 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
Revelation 4:1 After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven, and the first voice which I had heard, like the sound of a trumpet speaking with me, said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after these things."
Calvin's actual teachings and acts lead a Protestant history scholar to become a Catholic.
I was especially interested to read his claim that Calvin repudiated a "Spiritual" sense of the Eucharistic presence.
Ever been there?
Huh?
I can agree or deny.
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