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Five Reasons I Reject the Doctrine of Transubstantiation
Reclaiming the Mind Credo House ^ | March 8, 2013 | C Michael Patton

Posted on 07/09/2015 9:33:36 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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1 posted on 07/09/2015 9:33:36 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Gamecock; HossB86; Iscool; ...

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2 posted on 07/09/2015 9:34:11 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Excellent. Thanks!

Hoss

3 posted on 07/09/2015 9:37:20 AM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: RnMomof7

The scripture is pretty simple. It’s a symbol. It is a SIMPLE symbol that represents the foundational teaching upon which Christianity exists.

It shocks some Catholics when I mention that my wife and I sometimes take communion after a meal at home.

“As often as you do this, do it in remembrance of Me...”


4 posted on 07/09/2015 9:38:06 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: RnMomof7

Best reason? Christ said “in remembrance of me”, not “this bread and wine will turn into meat and blood”.


5 posted on 07/09/2015 9:41:00 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (The night is far spent, the day is at hand.- Romans 13:12)
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To: RnMomof7

In before the catholics.


6 posted on 07/09/2015 9:44:45 AM PDT by Mark17 (Thy goodness faileth never. Good shepherd may I sing thy praise, within thy house forever. Amen)
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To: RnMomof7

If it is a symbol then why John 6:66? Previously when Jesus spoke figuratively he would follow up with a clarification, but then here he doubles down and many of his disciples leave because the teaching was too hard.


7 posted on 07/09/2015 9:53:47 AM PDT by impimp
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To: RnMomof7

“Gospel of John doesn’t mention the Eucharist.”

Except for almost the entire chapter 6 of John.


8 posted on 07/09/2015 10:00:09 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Mark17; RnMomof7

Because that’s all these threads really are ... just an anti-Catholic game.


9 posted on 07/09/2015 10:13:35 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: impimp
If it is a symbol then why John 6:66? Previously when Jesus spoke figuratively he would follow up with a clarification, but then here he doubles down and many of his disciples leave because the teaching was too hard.

The Jews took the Master literally, rejecting His words as abhorent because cannibalism and drinking of blood were stricly forbidden. Do you honestly believe Christ would contradict Himself? He was the author of the Old Testament.

10 posted on 07/09/2015 10:18:42 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: cuban leaf
The scripture is pretty simple. It’s a symbol.

The Old Covenant was full of symbols; read Hebrews. Jesus came to bring something better than a new set of symbols.

11 posted on 07/09/2015 10:20:38 AM PDT by Campion
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To: impimp
Except for almost the entire chapter 6 of John.

The eucharist was instituted the night of His trial and death.

The events in John 6 are several years before that.

Therefore, John 6 is not the eucharist ...

12 posted on 07/09/2015 10:22:56 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: RnMomof7
Orthodox Christianity (not Eastern Orthodox) holds to the “Hypostatic Union” of Christ. This means that we believe that Christ is fully God and fully man. This was most acutely defined at the Council of Chalcedon in 451.

Absolutely everybody in attendance at the Council of Chalcedon believed in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. (Discussed here)

13 posted on 07/09/2015 10:23:23 AM PDT by Campion
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To: dartuser
The events in John 6 are several years before that.

No, it was exactly one year before that. At the Passover, see Jn 6:4.

14 posted on 07/09/2015 10:24:46 AM PDT by Campion
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To: RnMomof7

You only need one reason. It isn’t in the Bible. It’s a local church ordinance to remember Him until He comes again.


15 posted on 07/09/2015 10:24:48 AM PDT by sigzero
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“The Blood of the Lord, indeed, is twofold. There is His corporeal Blood, by which we are redeemed from corruption; and His spiritual Blood, that with which we are anointed. That is to say, to drink the Blood of Jesus is to share in His immortality. The strength of the Word is the Spirit just as the blood is the strength of the body. Similarly, as wine is blended with water, so is the Spirit with man. The one, the Watered Wine, nourishes in faith, while the other, the Spirit, leads us on to immortality. The union of both, however, - of the drink and of the Word, - is called the Eucharist, a praiseworthy and excellent gift. Those who partake of it in faith are sanctified in body and in soul. By the will of the Father, the divine mixture, man, is mystically united to the Spirit and to the Word.” — St. Clement of Alexandria, before AD 202.


16 posted on 07/09/2015 10:27:39 AM PDT by Campion
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To: RnMomof7

“the cup”

Well, now, in before the “Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade” cup shows up.


17 posted on 07/09/2015 10:30:16 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: RnMomof7

Most people treat everything in life including religion as a superstition; religion, EMP, politics, etc.


18 posted on 07/09/2015 10:32:07 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: DuncanWaring
Because that’s all these threads really are ... just an anti-Catholic game.

I am an ex catholic. 😇 I am sure I will have a nice forever. I hope you do too. 😇

19 posted on 07/09/2015 10:32:18 AM PDT by Mark17 (Thy goodness faileth never. Good shepherd may I sing thy praise, within thy house forever. Amen)
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To: dartuser

I reiterate - John 6 is a long discussion of the Eucharist. Do you reject what I am saying? yes or no


20 posted on 07/09/2015 10:37:28 AM PDT by impimp
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