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Pope Joan: The Female Pope whose Real Gender was Revealed after she Gave Birth in a Procession
Ancient Origins ^ | 28 May, 2015 | Ḏḥwty

Posted on 05/28/2015 7:47:55 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

The origins of the Papacy can be traced to St. Peter, one of the original disciples of Jesus. The current pope, Francis I, is the 265th successor of St. Peter. Needless to say, all 266 popes are male. Yet, during the middle ages, there existed a story about a pope who was actually a female in disguise. The name of this supposed female pope was Joan. Who was this mysterious Pope Joan, and did she really exist?

The statue that still stands in Rome is Joanna with a papal crown.

The statue that still stands in Rome is Joanna with a papal crown.(ericcostanzo.com)

The first written account of Pope Joan can be traced to a 13th century work known as the Chronica universalis Mettensis (Chronicle of Metz). According to its author, the Dominican chronicler, Jean de Mailly, there was an unnamed pope who was not recorded in the list of Bishops of Rome because she was a woman disguised as a man. The chronicler goes on to say that it was this woman’s character and talents that enabled her to occupy the seat of St. Peter. In addition, de Mailly records that the grave of this unnamed pope was marked with a Latin phrase, “Petre, Pater Patrum, Papisse Prodito Partum”, meaning “O Peter, Father of Fathers, betray the childbearing of the woman pope”. It may be pointed out, however, that de Mailly begins this narrative with the Latin infinitive “Require”, meaning “to be verified / inquired into”, indicating that even the author himself is unsure as to the truth of the story.

Painting of Pope Joan in Papal Tiara, on display at the Bibliothèque Nationale de France, circa 1560.The artist is unknown.

Painting of Pope Joan in Papal Tiara, on display at the Bibliothèque Nationale de France, circa 1560.The artist is unknown. (en.wikipedia.org)

The story of the female pope in disguise is then picked up by an anonymous Franciscan friar of Erfurt in his Chronica minor, and by the Dominican inquisitor and preacher, Etienne de Bourbon. Whilst the story of the female pope in the Chronica minor is similar to that of de Mailly’s, Etienne de Bourbon’s version includes details regarding her death. The author records that the pope gave birth in public, thus revealing her true gender, and she was subsequently dragged behind a horse for half a league and then stoned to death for her deceit.

The most well-known and influential version of the female pope story, however, comes from the Chronicon pontificum et imperatorum (Chronicle of Popes and Emperors), written by another Dominican, Martinus Polonus. Due to the prestige and credibility derived from his ties with the Roman hierarchy, Martinus’ work circulated widely, and overshadowed the accounts of earlier writers on the same subject. Unlike other earlier accounts, Martinus provides a vivid account of the female pope’s life. As a matter of fact, it is here that the name Joan first appears in writing.

In addition to naming this pope, Martinus also provides details such as her nationality (English), place of birth (Mainz), as well as her pontificate (after Leo IV’s death in A.D. 855), and the length of her reign (two years, seven months and four days). Although Martinus reveals little about his sources, there is a tone of uncertainty in his writing, revealing that like his predecessors, he is also unclear about the verity of this tale. On top of that, some have claimed that this story was added to the chronicle after Martinus’ death, indicating that the chronicler had nothing to do with this tale. 

Martinus Polonus, the Dominican Friar who wrote a vivid account of Pope Joan’s life, yet he revealed little about his sources. Here he is depicted as the Archbishop of Gniezno, illustrated manuscript prior to 1535.

Martinus Polonus, the Dominican Friar who wrote a vivid account of Pope Joan’s life, yet he revealed little about his sources. Here he is depicted as the Archbishop of Gniezno, illustrated manuscript prior to 1535. (en.wikipedia.org)

From Martinus onwards, the story of Pope Joan became more and more elaborate. One version of the story, for instance, claims that the pope did not die immediately after giving birth. Instead, she was deposed after her confinement, and did penance for many years. After her death, she was buried in Ostia, where her son held the office of bishop.

As the primary written sources themselves indicate a certain amount of doubt regarding the story of Pope Joan, it is possible that the story is but an urban legend. Yet, others believe that there are ‘hints’ of this female pope’s existence in art and architecture. For instance, on the pillars of Bernini’s Baldalchin in St. Peter’s Basilica in the Vatican City, seven sculptures showing a woman’s facial expression whilst going into labour can be found. The eighth sculpture is that of a child. Some have interpreted this as that Pope Joan giving birth. Yet, there are numerous other possible interpretations of this scene that are conveniently ignored. The most popular one, for instance, is that the woman is the niece of Pope Urban VIII, who went into labour whilst Bernini was working on the Baldalchin.

Situated in the basilica of St Peter is the Baldachin, a sculpture in bronze by Bernini, created 1623-34, depicts seven sculptures showing a woman’s facial expression whilst going into labour. The eighth sculpture is that of a child.

Situated in the basilica of St Peter is the Baldachin, a sculpture in bronze by Bernini, created 1623-34, depicts seven sculptures showing a woman’s facial expression whilst going into labour. The eighth sculpture is that of a child. (en.wikipedia.org)

The legend of Pope Joan has survived over the centuries. The alleged female pope has been depicted in art, literature and plays. This tale has also been made into films, the most recent one being in 2009. Although the available evidence seems to cast some doubts regarding the existence of Pope Joan, it is likely that some would continue to believe that this figure was real. Whether as a piece of fiction or history, the tale of Pope Joan will most likely live on for a long time to come.

Featured image:  Pope Joan gives birth during a Church procession, artist Giovanni Boccaccio Circa 1450. (Wikimedia Commons)

By Ḏḥwty

References

abcnews.go.com, 2005. Looking for Pope Joan. [Online]
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Boese, A., 2015. Pope Joan. [Online]
Available at: http://hoaxes.org/archive/permalink/pope_joan

Bonetto, C., 2010. Rome Encounter. London: Lonely Planet Publications.
Kirsch, J., 1910. Popess Joan. [Online]
Available at: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08407a.htm

Rustici, C. M., 2006. The Afterlife of Pope Joan: Deploying the Popess Legend in Early Modern England. Ann Arbor: University of Michiga Press.

Squires, N., 2010. Pope Joan film sparks Roman Catholic Church row. [Online]
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www.biography.com, 2015. Pope Joan. [Online]
Available at: http://www.biography.com/people/pope-joan-279083


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To: Al Hitan
Protestants readily ordain female pastors now days.

No 'they' don't, some Christian denominations do, some don't.

21 posted on 05/28/2015 9:32:31 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
No 'they' don't, some Christian denominations do, some don't.

Solo scriptura.

22 posted on 05/28/2015 9:38:28 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Oztrich Boy; impimp

Thanks to both of you. I’m somewhat intrigued by this story ... hoax or not, I may do some poking around to see what’s out there on her. :-)


23 posted on 05/28/2015 9:41:16 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: Al Hitan

LOL, don’t know enough to realize that there are different Christian denominations? From the Catholic denomination to the Southern Baptists, and many other denominations.


24 posted on 05/28/2015 9:43:22 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

25 posted on 05/28/2015 10:14:45 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan

I’m sure that you leave many people puzzled by what you are trying to say.


26 posted on 05/28/2015 10:16:47 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Salvation

Exactly! Such a made up story that isn’t hard to disprove. And if it were true we are to believe a female Pope was dumb enough to get pregnant, walk around 9 months pregnant and have a baby in public. The things people will believe! Interesting they chose the name Joan— as in of Arc?


27 posted on 05/28/2015 10:18:52 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Alex Murphy

My question would be how she could have been elected/selected/named as Pope of Rome in the first place? No one, not even back then could just plop down on the throne and lay claim to be THE Pope. Didn’t any of the electors/cardinals know about her gender? I think this story - like many things concerning the Roman Catholic religion - is based on legends and myths.


28 posted on 05/28/2015 11:04:27 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Salvation; al_c
*8The fundamental flaw in the Pope Joan legend and why any serious historian would reject it is that there is no “gap” in the actual traceable historical record where “Pope Joan” would have served if the legend were true. **

There are numerous "gaps" in the so-called unbroken line of popes - even in the one you recently posted. There were even times when two or three popes were all reigning at the same time excommunicating each other and their followers. So, having a gap or not is FAR from a "fundamental flaw".

29 posted on 05/28/2015 11:10:38 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Kirkwood
There are people walking around today that believe Jedi Knights are real. Hundreds of years from now, maybe everyone will believe it.

LOL in before someone accuses you of being a rabid anti-Jedi!

30 posted on 05/29/2015 1:30:19 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: boatbums; Salvation; al_c

He who controls the present controls the past


31 posted on 05/29/2015 2:09:07 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Sub-editors: totes unnecessary.)
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To: MacMattico

The legend and the name dates to at least a couple of centuries before Joan of Arc.


32 posted on 05/29/2015 3:22:47 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Alex Murphy

One of the great hoaxes of history, thoroughly discredited and dismissed by pretty much every reputable historian, but still getting play from the usual suspects.

Moving on.


33 posted on 05/29/2015 7:17:35 AM PDT by NRx (An unrepentant champion of the old order and determined foe of damnable Whiggery in all its forms.)
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To: Alex Murphy

34 posted on 05/29/2015 7:52:56 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
quadruple facepalm
35 posted on 05/29/2015 8:05:05 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy
This has been debunked countless times.

What is the motivation to posting flagrant lies?
36 posted on 05/29/2015 11:32:53 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: DarkSavant
This has been debunked countless times. What is the motivation to posting flagrant lies?

Which of these assertions, all found in the article itself, do you believe to be "flagrant lies"?


37 posted on 05/29/2015 11:57:30 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy
As the primary written sources themselves indicate a certain amount of doubt regarding the story of Pope Joan, it is possible that the story is but an urban legend.

It's "possible" that the story of Pope Joan is an urban legend in the same way it's "possible" gravity is real.

Give me a break.
38 posted on 05/29/2015 12:04:38 PM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: DarkSavant

Rofl!!!


39 posted on 05/29/2015 3:54:21 PM PDT by johngrace ( I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Alex Murphy

“The statue that still stands in Rome is Joanna with a papal crown.”

Nope. It’s just the personification of the Church as a holy woman. It shows up in art all the time:

http://casasantalidia.blogspot.com/2007/07/rejoice-o-holy-mother-church.html

http://orbiscatholicussecundus.blogspot.com/2010/01/vatican-city-pope-joan.html


40 posted on 05/29/2015 3:56:37 PM PDT by vladimir998
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