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Reformed Apologetics Thoughts of Francis Turretin Blog ^ | April 21, 2009 | Francis Turretin Fan

Posted on 04/22/2015 2:34:02 PM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: Responsibility2nd
I see nothing here that bashes Catholics except several dozen Bible verses pitted against man made dogma.

If the gospel does not offend, it is not the gospel ...so the offense is a good thing

61 posted on 04/22/2015 5:04:14 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
>>The Jews codified their canon (minus the Deuterocanonical books) somewhere around 100 AD<<

Romans 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? 2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.

>>The Septuagint version of Scripture that Jesus quoted in the NT contained the Deuterocanonical books.<<

Jesus, in Luke 11:51 and Matthew 23:55 when he refers to the “the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah” affirms the first book of the Hebrew scripture as Genesis, and the last book as II Chronicles. This affirmation demonstrates the Hebrew “Canon” was closed by the time of Malachi in 425 B.C.

Jesus also referred to the 3-part division of Hebrew scripture in Luke 24:44, referring to the, “Law of Moses.. the prophets …the Psalms”. This reference confirms the current division of Hebrew canon, which excludes the books known as the Apocrypha or Deuterocanonicals.

Josephus (37-100 A.D), the Jewish historian also affirmed in his arguments in Contra Apion 1:7-8 the number of books in the Hebrew canon was numbered at 22, which according to Jewish numbering is the same as the 39 in the Protestant Old Testament.

Jerome (325-420 A.D.) The Biblical scholar of his day, and the translator of the Catholic Bible, the Latin Vulgate, clearly agreed with the Hebrew canon, being limited 39 books of the present Old Testament to the exclusion of the additional books of the Apocrypha.

I would suggest you study the history of the Septuagint.

62 posted on 04/22/2015 5:06:10 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: mlizzy
Yes!! My best friend, here in the area, is my 90+ year old Missouri Synod Sunday School teacher. What a gem! Never any squabbling about faith; we just live it as best we can.

Do you ever discuss it? You might be surprised what she thinks

63 posted on 04/22/2015 5:06:48 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: goodwithagun
Beautiful things happen when Christians of all denominations get together.

Before the 1600's they were altogether...then suddenly someone had a brilliant idea....why don't we split off from Christ's church and decide on our own how to get to Heaven......How's that working out for you?????

64 posted on 04/22/2015 5:08:09 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: caww
Sorry that so many catholics continue to post curt remarks rather then discuss the topic......in time they do float away which leaves those interested in discussion ...so I’ll patiently wait while the sifting occurs.

No problem .. Eph 6:14

65 posted on 04/22/2015 5:10:08 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: terycarl
See here just for starters.
66 posted on 04/22/2015 5:10:45 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
The Jews codified their canon (minus the Deuterocanonical books) somewhere around 100 AD, after the Church was established and the authority to maintain Scripture was no longer the purview of the Jewish people.

Jesus codified the O.T. canon in the book of Luke...

67 posted on 04/22/2015 5:11:30 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
you’re being honest, you have to acknowledge that there are far, far more anti-Catholic threads posted by Protestants, than there are threads of the reverse.

you ALWAYS attack the leader...what would be the point of Catholics going after protestants, who by their very name, are protesting what Catholics know to be the truth???

68 posted on 04/22/2015 5:15:43 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: terycarl
you ALWAYS attack the Leader

That makes sense, when you consider my signature.

69 posted on 04/22/2015 5:20:54 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Salvation

....”If Jesus sends that soul to Purgatory, it is so that the soul can be purified by suffering and penance it did not do while on earth”.....

There’s no such thing as purgatory....they’re cannot be otherwise the work of the cross accomplished nothing at all.

Either Jesus died for us and forgives is of sins, and to grant us eternal life with him by that...or it’s all a lie.

I’ve often wondered how people that believe they are praying someone out of purgatory tells when they’ve finally made it????? Becuase otherwise if they don’t know then they too die without knowing....


70 posted on 04/22/2015 5:25:27 PM PDT by caww
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To: RnMomof7

My hope is built on nothing less
Than Jesus’ blood and righteousness;
I dare not trust the sweetest frame,
But wholly lean on Jesus’ name.
On Christ, the solid Rock, I stand;
All other ground is sinking sand.

When darkness veils His lovely face,
I rest on His unchanging grace;
In every high and stormy gale
My anchor holds within the veil.
On Christ, the solid Rock, I stand;
All other ground is sinking sand.

His oath, His covenant, and blood
Support me in the whelming flood;
When every earthly prop gives way,
He then is all my Hope and Stay.
On Christ, the solid Rock, I stand;
All other ground is sinking sand.

When He shall come with trumpet sound,
Oh, may I then in Him be found,
Clothed ‘in His righteousness alone,
Faultless to stand before the throne!’
On Christ, the solid Rock, I stand;
All other ground is sinking sand.


71 posted on 04/22/2015 5:29:04 PM PDT by caww
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To: Iscool
Their Catholic religion is completely foreign to the scriptures...A square plug in a round hole...

They are foreign to the scriptures which they compiled...but you, on the other hand, are right on with the definite truth...

O.K., I guess.........

72 posted on 04/22/2015 5:30:53 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: Rashputin
Is it not true that, as to the canon of the Old Testament, that the Jews had two canons: the Hebrew Canon and the Septuagint or Greek Canon which I believe is associated with Alexandria, that the Early Christian Church and Roman Catholicism ever after chose the Septuagint which was the longer canon and that Luther and the Reformation adopted the Hebrew Canon which was shorter?

Is is not also true that we can be generous to one another across denominational lines and not attribute motives to Luther or others who are long dead?

73 posted on 04/22/2015 5:31:05 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Thank-you for making my night and God Bless.

The sad thing about all this is that at a time when Christians in the Middle East are either are dying for the Lord Jesus or are fleeing for their very lives, there is still infighting which simply is NOT of GOD and only gives the enemy unwanted support.

I too, love the Evangelicals even when hurtful posts are posted. In truth, they are FORGIVEN for doing such stuff including using the Holy Bible to bash Christian Catholics.


74 posted on 04/22/2015 5:31:51 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: caww

I use a courier’s pouch now ... 9mm rides better.


75 posted on 04/22/2015 5:32:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: mlizzy

I would love to see Free Republic be a force for Good, across the board, not just on their other forums.

____________________

Amen!


76 posted on 04/22/2015 5:32:21 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: CynicalBear; Freedom_Is_Not_Free; RnMomof7

I have to respectfully disagree that threads talking about what the bible says can in any way displease Jesus.


77 posted on 04/22/2015 5:34:52 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Iscool

Yet at the Catholic mass the scriptures are read, so it is round plug in a round hole.

A gentle correctin.


78 posted on 04/22/2015 5:37:46 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Yet sadly, the Bible has been used on a number of threads to bash other Christian believers, Catholics included.


79 posted on 04/22/2015 5:38:59 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: SumProVita; mlizzy
Free Republic IS a force for Good, INCLUDING the MOST important GOOD: the gospel of your salvation. Which is given here every day, probably at LEAST once an hour, by different members of the Body of Christ, who are fulfilling the commission God gave us: to be ambassadors for Him, preaching reconciliation through His Son: 2 Cor. 5:14-21. The free gift of salvation given by Him through the shed blood of Christ.

What more would a lost person actually need than the gospel of the grace of God? Stock tips? Obama news? Recipes?

80 posted on 04/22/2015 5:41:53 PM PDT by smvoice (There are no prizes given for defending the indefensible.)
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