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Prayers For, To,and Through the Dead
Reformed Apologetics Thoughts of Francis Turretin Blog ^ | April 21, 2009 | Francis Turretin Fan

Posted on 04/22/2015 2:34:02 PM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: caww

We pray, talk to God, out of love for Him, gratitude for saving us, a desire to communicate with He who loved us and gave Himself for us.

We thank Him, worship Him, praise Him, confide in Him, confess to Him, ask Him for things, and sometimes just talk to Him, pouring out our hearts like we would with a friend.

We aren’t using God so that when we get what we want, we put Him onthe shelf.

Sheesh, what some people reveal about themselves with the assumptions they make about others.


321 posted on 04/23/2015 8:09:06 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

If you don’t the answer, I feel very, very sorry for you.


322 posted on 04/23/2015 8:09:43 PM PDT by ebb tide (Come home to Rome)
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To: ebb tide

I wasn’t either.


323 posted on 04/23/2015 8:10:21 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: metmom

Amen. I was thinking the same thing.


324 posted on 04/23/2015 8:11:24 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: ebb tide

God is the one I sin against and He is the one who forgives me.

I don’t need a man to tell me what God has already told me.

I beleive God and what He told me i His word.

Don’t you?


325 posted on 04/23/2015 8:11:40 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ebb tide

Nope. Only one way for Christians.


326 posted on 04/23/2015 8:12:44 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide

I didn’t expect an answer.

Evasion duly noted.


327 posted on 04/23/2015 8:12:59 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ebb tide; metmom
Do you think people are going to not do what's right just because they are sure of where they're going when they die?

Are you saying y'all have been living completely sinless lives since your "enlightenment"?

You don't break one Commandment every now and then?

After all the scripture and preaching to you guys, you still don't get it...You apparently refuse to get it...I assume you are trying to get us to abandon the biblical position on the issue...

Of course we break commandments, we violate oracles...But we are not under the law...We will not be judged by the law...

Rom_5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

We commit sin but there is no sin imputed to us...And of course there's more to it than that but Jesus paid the price for our sin...All of it...

328 posted on 04/23/2015 8:13:52 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: MamaB

I don’t think the Southern Baptists and the Methodists are on the same page on many things.

Don’t you get tired of flipping pages?


329 posted on 04/23/2015 8:13:58 PM PDT by ebb tide (Come home to Rome)
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To: ebb tide

They were way back then. Why should I get tired of following along in the Bible? I was at church, remember? Don’t you follow along?


330 posted on 04/23/2015 8:16:37 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: ebb tide

In 1 John 1:9 God promises that if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Just how does the Catholic church reconcile that with their claim that God gave men the power to retain sin?

Suppose the person confesses to the priest and for some reason, the priest decides to retain their sins. Who prevails?

Does God, who overrides the priest, thus making the priest unnecessary since God has ultimate say anyway?

Or does the priest prevail, making God subservient to the whim of the priest and his flawed human judgment?


331 posted on 04/23/2015 8:18:40 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ebb tide; MamaB
Who’s “We”? Who are you speaking for?

She's speaking for me and a few hundred million other Christians...

332 posted on 04/23/2015 8:18:53 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ravenwolf

As long as you do not get two classes of clergy, elders and bishops, and or a separate class of believers distinctively titled priests out of it!


333 posted on 04/23/2015 8:22:20 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Iscool
We commit sin but there is no sin imputed to us...

Because we died to the Law, so it has no more power over us.

We are under grace, not under law so the law cannot effect us any more.

334 posted on 04/23/2015 8:22:48 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Iscool

I really like it how each of y’all speaks for how everybody else believes. Everybody is his own chief, each speaking for the same thousand tribes.


335 posted on 04/23/2015 8:24:44 PM PDT by ebb tide (Come home to Rome)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

It sounds like you are saying people are free to believe what they want, but they shouldn’t be allowed to talk about it, especially if it’s critical of the Catholic Church. I don’t know how many articles critical of Protestantism that I’ve read on FR since I’ve been posting frequently over the last year. Wouldn’t it make more sense for you to speak about those - in other words, start with your own house - if you truly want all criticism of other people’s religious groups to stop?

And it’s not true that “everyone knows” no one is going to change what they believe here. I believe most people here, judging from their postings, believe just the opposite - that some people might change what they believe, whether they’re posters or lurkers. I’ve even heard a few posters mentioned who did in the past change their beliefs. So that’s simply untrue, and that’s why people post about Catholicism - not because of egotism.

And the main reason why they, and I too at times, post on the Catholic Church is that its doctrines grieve us.I started out neutral on the Catholic Church, open to it, even after I read the Bible about ten years ago, but at this point it gets worse in my eyes all the time.

One thing grievous about it? I remember Father Corapi (who I know has since left the priesthood) speaking on prayer, and saying that people ask him to pray, and he said, “But I don’t have power. Mary has power. Jesus has power. The saints have power.” And the Catholic radio station in the Buffalo area, where I used to live, was doing a fundraiser once when the radio host said, “Maybe Mary is inspiring you to call. Or the Holy Spirit.” Their phone number is 877-888-6279, or as they put it, 877-888-MARY. And not long ago a Catholic radio on the station in the state where I live now was asked what chapter of the new book he’d written, which is something of an overview of all Catholicism, meant the most to him, and I wondered to myself if his answer would point to Mary, and sure enough, he said it was the chapter he wrote on Mary.

Those are just a few examples of something so troubling to Bible-believing Christians, giving the Lord’s place someone else. Putting aside the Old Testament for a moment, you can’t find a single instance of someone besides God being exalted in the New Testament, and it being approved of by God. In fact, when Herod gave a speech and the people started to say, “the words of a god and not of a man,” because he allowed the people to say that and didn’t instead correct them and give the glory to God, he was eaten by worms from the inside on the spot. And the whole Bible is consistent with that bright line. Only God is a God.


336 posted on 04/23/2015 8:25:35 PM PDT by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: Iscool
She's speaking for me and a few hundred million other Christians...

Hmmm. And I thought only God was omniscient.

337 posted on 04/23/2015 8:26:53 PM PDT by ebb tide (Come home to Rome)
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To: Faith Presses On

Amen.


338 posted on 04/23/2015 8:28:17 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: ebb tide
Get off the catholic high horse. Unless you can say with 100% certainty that every message from every catholic priest, Sunday school teacher, delivered every Sunday is the same worldwide then you have zero room to talk.

. You know what they say on the playground......put up or hush up.

339 posted on 04/23/2015 8:28:29 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: metmom

I’ve already noted that the question you asked is very strange and implicitly heretical.


340 posted on 04/23/2015 8:29:51 PM PDT by ebb tide (Come home to Rome)
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