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Strange but Rich Verses: What Does Acts 1:4 Mean by Saying That Jesus Was “Eating Salt with Them”?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 04-14-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/15/2015 7:02:30 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: vladimir998

Do not broad brush every Protestant posting here as liars.

Your post will be removed.


41 posted on 04/15/2015 11:20:44 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Late to another excellent Msgr. Pope reflection, ping!


42 posted on 04/15/2015 1:11:53 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: Salvation

The reference may possibly be a martial reference. My son the classicist reports to me:

“Aristotle says that only men who have eaten salt together can truly be friends. After marching to the field of battle in full armor, the Greeks would eat salt before engaging in order to replace what they lost in sweat (since otherwise one faces debilitating cramps).”

Thus, there is something about “eating salt together” that makes men “comrades-in-arms,” that is about being in battle together, or striving together.

But that doesn’t necessarily mean that it carries the same connotation among the Greek speakers of the New Testament community.


43 posted on 04/15/2015 1:16:32 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: dangus

nice try


44 posted on 04/15/2015 4:29:18 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Campion
How many times are you going to keep repeating this falsehood? There is no "re sacrifice," there is only one sacrifice, made present in our time.

The sacrifice was DONE almost 2,000 years ago when Jesus said, "It is finished!"

There is no sacrifice presently going on anywhere that we are participating in.

At the moment, in heaven, Jesus is PRESENTLY seated at the right hand of God waiting for His enemies to be made His footstool while presently interceding for us, His saints, according to the will of God.

Scripture is clear about what Jesus is doing at the moment in heaven and it isn't perpetually dying.

45 posted on 04/15/2015 5:06:31 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Religion Moderator

“Do not broad brush every Protestant posting here as liars. Your post will be removed.”

So you will also now be removing all posts that claim Catholics worship the Virgin Mary, right? After all it would be wrong to “broad brush every [Catholic] posting here as [worshiper of the Virgin Mary]”, right?

Oh, and by the way, I believe I said “Protestant anti-Catholics” and not “Protestant” so your complaint that I “broad brush every Protestant posting here as liars” isn’t even correct.


46 posted on 04/15/2015 6:55:09 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Verginius Rufus
catch the force of the Greek mou "from me."

Yes, come to think of it, good translation, in the context.

47 posted on 04/15/2015 7:16:13 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: sitetest

I thought of this theory this morning. With Jesus and the apostles walking a lot in the desert, hot and sweaty, eating salt might be the best thing for them.

I nearly had a case of heat stroke because I didn’t have enough salt in my body. It’s scary.


48 posted on 04/15/2015 9:57:49 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: vladimir998
"Broad brushing" wasn't the issue.

Accusing a group of posters of being liars is the issue.

Lying attributes motive and therefore is mindreading, which is personal.

...your complaint that I "broad brush every Protestant posting here as liars" isn't even correct.

That's not what was said to you.

You were admonished to "not broad brush every Protestant posting here as liars" to make it clear that going further with your not adhering to the guidelines for posting on the Religion Forum would not be tolerated.

If you wish to continue to misinterpret what was said to you, we can review your posts before they are allowed to be put on threads.

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

49 posted on 04/15/2015 10:40:54 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Are you going to spell out the posting restrictions you’ve put on me?


51 posted on 04/16/2015 8:40:17 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Your back and forth with the mod is a prime example of a private convo I’ve had with several other FReepers. It is affecting donations.


52 posted on 04/17/2015 10:38:35 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Salvation; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...
Of course it is no mere table fellowship; it is the meal of the New Covenant we have come to call the Mass. Hence without doing disservice to Luke’s description we can say (in our more developed theological language) that during the forty days before He ascended, the Lord celebrated Mass with them.

Typical wanton Cath extrapolative eisegesis. The RC takes a texts which seems to refer to eating together, and makes the simple statement into eating the flesh and blood of Christ over the course of 40 days, based upon the erroneous doctrine of transubstantiation n with its NeoPlatonic concepts.

53 posted on 04/18/2015 4:25:59 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Salvation

Again, terrible Greek interpretation - eisogesis to fit a doctrine that developed later in history as paganism was integrated into the catholic denomination.

Why do you post poor quality analysis when so much great stuff is written about God’s Word..?


54 posted on 04/18/2015 4:45:49 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I don’t consider it poor quality. After all it’s coming from a Monsignor.


55 posted on 04/18/2015 4:57:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“Nominative Circumstantial Frame

Nominative circumstantial frame—Nominative participial clauses that are positioned before the main verb to establish a state of affairs for the clause that flows. The use of the participle backgrounds the action with respect to the main verb of the clause in order to ensure that the main action receives primary attention. Nominative circumstantial frames are used when the subject of the participle is the same as the subject of the main clause. See the Introduction for further discussion on Nominative Circumstantial Frames.”

From the Lexam Discourse Greek New Testament


56 posted on 04/18/2015 4:59:31 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Salvation
Of course it is no mere table fellowship; it is the meal of the New Covenant we have come to call the Mass. Hence without doing disservice to Luke’s description we can say (in our more developed theological language) that during the forty days before He ascended, the Lord celebrated Mass with them. And thus the Emmaus description (Luke 24:30) of Him at the table giving thanks, blessing, breaking, and giving them the bread so that they recognize him therein is not the only allusion to a post-resurrection Mass.

Makes sense to me...Meat without salt is pretty bland...

57 posted on 04/18/2015 5:00:55 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Salvation

“I don’t consider it poor quality. After all it’s coming from a Monsignor.”

Sorry Salvation - and I truly wish salvation for you - it is very poor handling of the Greek text, regardless of his position.


58 posted on 04/18/2015 5:01:04 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: daniel1212; Salvation; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; ...
Of course it is no mere table fellowship; it is the meal of the New Covenant we have come to call the Mass. Hence without doing disservice to Luke’s description we can say (in our more developed theological language) that during the forty days before He ascended, the Lord celebrated Mass with them.

I would like to see the infallible commentary , by the magisterium, on that scripture..

59 posted on 04/18/2015 5:39:49 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Salvation
I don’t consider it poor quality. After all it’s coming from a Monsignor.

So, is something coming from a monsignor supposed to be some kind of guarantee against it being poor quality.

60 posted on 04/18/2015 6:24:26 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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