Posted on 03/26/2015 5:03:18 PM PDT by RnMomof7
A conclusion that Luther rejected.
A conclusion that Calvin rejected.
A conclusion that Jerome rejected ... with extreme vehemence.
A conclusion which Torah and logic, taken together, require either (a) that Jesus' "literal, uterine brothers" all predeceased him; or (b) that practically Jesus' last act on earth was to commit a sin, by absolving his siblings of their duty to obey Torah and take care of their mother.
A conclusion which requires us to speak where the Bible is silent, because absolutely no verse anywhere in Scripture says that anyone except Jesus is a biological son or daughter of Mary.
Yes.
Jesus brother James was pretty noteworthy.
Ref New Testament book of James.
What kind of smartphone would Jesus have if he were alive today? Apple?
Have you noticed that the Prots, on a whole, spend much more time attacking the Catholic Church then they do attacking each others’ “churches”?
Yet, all their “churches” are younger than the Catholic Church, the only one founded by Jesus Christ.
Mary needed the salvation provided by her son. She was a sinner. For ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God. That includes Mary. There is ONE mediator between MAN and God. The Man Christ Jesus. He says that He is THE Way THE Truth THE Life. No Man(woman or child) comes to the Father except by ME. If Mary could she would ask people to stop worshipping her and instead worship her son.
Mat 13;…54He came to His hometown and began teaching them in their synagogue, so that they were astonished, and said, "Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers? 55"Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? 56"And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this man get all these things?"…
Oh, for goodness sake...
I actually typed “virginity” and the iPad must have autocorrected it.
Apologies to all
Good observation.
Respectfully, (1) what do you think the Immaculate Conception is, and (2) why would Mary having other children in addition to Jesus negate the hypothesis of an Immaculate Conception?
Well, of course He did. After the birth of Jesus, Mary and Joseph had a normal sexual life as a married couple. After Jesus was born, they "did the deed" and the brothers of Jesus did not believe in Him either, until later, possibly after the resurrection. Jesus' brothers James and Jude wrote books in the New Testament. I can see heads exploding, but Elsie has been right all along. 😄😃😀😱😇
Only if they were sons of Joseph by an earlier marriage.
...where art thou?
There’s nothing like a little sibling rivalry to test one’s character.
Can you imagine how sick of hearing Mary say, “Why can’t you be more like Jesus?” His brothers were?
Can you imagine how they’d plot to try to set Him up to either disobey or compromise Himself, or just to frame Him and get Him in trouble?
Catholics will strangely say that Mary remained a virgin for her entire life and never had relations with her husband.
It’s like small children who learn about sex but cannot accept that their parents have participated in the practice. It’s a sign of arrested development and emotional immaturity.
No the “immaculate conception” addresses Mary being born without sin
You think "age of a church" means anything???
Jesus did start the church....just not the Roman catholic church and the false teachings it promotes today.
Obviously protestant churches haven’t been around as long as the Catholic church has. It took reformers like Luther to come along and take the stand that extorting money out of peasants and selling them salvation through indulgences was not only un-Christlike but corrupt to the core.
Luther’s Mariology consisted of shattering the idol of the Virgin Mary with justification by faith. To the medieval ear these words must have been revolutionary: “Even the holy mother of God did not become good, was not saved, by her virginity or her motherhood, but rather by the will of faith and the works of God, and not by her purity, or her own works. Therefore, mark me well: this is the reason why salvation does not lie in our own works, no matter what they are; it cannot and will not be effected without faith” (LW 51:62).
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