Posted on 03/24/2015 8:06:07 AM PDT by RnMomof7
Does not matter if it is bible-based. It works real well. And you know them by their fruit.
Only by a very fractured exegesis of verbiage. Your interpretation of my language certainly does have a strange bent.. I reviewed my post and saw nothing of an anti Catholic OR anti-Protestant slant. Maybe you would like to enlighten me as to the anti-Catholic phraseology?
I did see a portion that could have punctured the epidermis of certain thin skinned people who presume more than they should. I can see how this would elicit a response from such an one.
Perchance are your shoes fitting properly?
Not to mention the shoe fits part...
Quote the personal attack part.
(Good that you agree, zero hero!) : )
I didn’t ask for your logic.
I know what you are asking. What I am asking is how can you deny that Mary is the mother of God incarnate when scripture very clearly describes Mary as giving birth to the Word made flesh, the only Son of the Father, Jesus Christ, who is to be called the Son of God?
What is your logic if not Nestorianism?
The demeanor of the poster says more about his own confession than the post says about yours. When he is being rude or mean it drives people away from his confession and towards yours. That is of course if you can resist the urge to meet fire with fire, in which case neither confession is appealing to the lurkers. The poster who “turns the other cheek” wins every single time.If the other guy is throwing spitwads at you on an “open” thread it probably means he has run out of ammunition. Take it as a backhanded compliment. You won, walk away.
Spiritual maturity is not a prerequisite for posting on the Religion Forum. If the other guy is being childish, be patient with him.
Abusive spammers contribute nothing other than their spam and they don’t last long on Free Republic.
Want to explain why this matters so much to you
It doesn’t really matter to me what you think. It’s just that I was astonished when I first read that some FReepers do not believe that Mary was the mother of God incarnate.
How do you come to that conclusion when Luke 1 and John 1 so clearly shows us that she is?
If you don’t want to answer that question, fine. I’m off to prayer group.
My concern comes from the following: "Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts." Now do those rules trump the RF arcana or not?
I have often wondered about the dead as has everyone at one point or another. In the parable Jesus answers the question of speaking to the dead and the dead speaking to the living in verse 29.
“29 But Abraham *said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’”
Abraham does not say He will talk to the Lord about it. Why not? God speaks to us through His word given through the prophets and the apostles. As for the dead speaking, those before the throne do ask God how long it will be for Him to avenge their deaths (Rev 6) but shows that they are trusting Him to fulfill His word. They just wanted to know when (like the animals living under the curse waiting for the return of the King). Christians are to pray to the Father for His will to be done. We can ask for nothing more and nothing less. Imagining myself in His presence would I have to ask Him to help my living family? No, because He knows what to do before we do and the orders are given before things happen on earth. I think we are to pray now because now we are in the spiritual war. Satan is here and we are God’s soldiers. In heaven we are not in the war, we are being comforted.
I read the words of the rosary once but I pray according to what Jesus said to pray. I do add details, mainly names and thoughts of those suffering (search the internet for prayer requests and be prepared to be overwhelmed with the suffering), but I am praying to my Father, in the Name of His Son. I also talk to Him throughout the day.
For you, I suppose, there are no limits, mr. rabble rouser.
Freedom to attack allows freedom to remove.
Whenever you see posts that contain profanity, personal attacks, racism or violence hit the abuse button to alert the Moderation staff.
In the broad (Biblical) sense, yes. As Roman Catholicism narrowly defines them (where the church has to confer officially sanctioned sainthood), no.
In the New Testament, a "saint" is a person identified by their holiness (note the close sound of even "holiness" and halios -- the underlying Greek word for "saint").
It is used in a corporate plural sense almost 100% of the time (IoW, the focus is NOT on the individual person). A "saint" is a "holy one among holy ones"; to make it about individuals rips it out of its New Testament context.
And the way it was used by Paul shows it was simply another interchangeable reference to "Christian." Examples of that:
* 7 To ALL who are in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. (Romans 1:7) [Roman Catholicism might have you believe that not ALL in Christ who were in Rome when Paul wrote this were not called to be saints]
* 15 Greet Philologus and Julia, Nereus and his sister, and Olympas, and ALL the saints who are with them. (Romans 16:15) [Roman Catholicism might have you believe that an abundance of "special" saints were in this one household]
* 21 Greet EVERY saint in Christ Jesus. (Phil 4:21) [This verse kind of shatters the Roman notion of "sainthood"]
13 distributing to the needs of the saints (Romans 12:13)
So...beyond THESE clarifications, my previous comment stands: It applies to many in Christ beyond Mary -- and who have yet to be conferred special "sainthood" status by the Romans.
I would say Mary, knowing him more intimately than any other, would rank near the top.
I HAD to chuckle very heartily at this statement.
Why? You're telling me that Roman Catholics are suddenly prioritizing who has most intimate knowledge of the Divine One as "THE priority" to approach in interceding for them?
Well, if THIS were truly so...
... do I even need to point out...
... that if we're praying to Heavenly Father as Jesus indicates to do (Mt. 6:6, 9; 26:53; John 14:12, 16; 16:26; most of John 17)...
...that's it's JESUS who "knows" the Father "more intimately than any other"
-- and that if you were at all consistent in applying that notion equally across the board --
-- you'd start, continue and end your prayers to the Father thru Jesus His Son, your personal Intercessor?
Even here, Jesus had a sense of spiritually weaning His disciples...didn't Jesus say?
In that day you will ask in My name, and I do not say to you that I shall pray the Father for you... (John 16:26)
IoW...Jesus is teaching us ALL to be TRUE adopted children who approach their "Abba" Father DIRECTLY --
...And when I say "directly" as a child WILL approach their FATHER directly...
And in John 16:26 Jesus is encouraging His disciples not to to slough off in only letting the Son pray on our behalf, but to approach Him directly...
...albeit NOT in any authority of our own, or of Mary, or of some "saint," but "in My name."
Discuss the issues all you want but do not make it personal.
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