Posted on 02/28/2015 2:38:16 PM PST by SkyPilot
All of Yehova’s elect are gathered in that event!
It is the only resurrection unto life:
Revelation 20:
[6] Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
I won't need any luck, that is for the goats and their pre-trib rapture.
Revelation 20 is a recap of preceding events, and has no room for secret imaginary raptures before the beast appears. It praises those that resisted the beast, and says not one word about anyone sneaking out before he arrives. .
I stand corrected on your comment I didn’t read it into the proper context. To your comment about Gal 5:14 where do you get contained over fulfilled. All translations to include KJV, NIV, AMP, NSB, and Interlinear say fulfilled. The only exception is the CJB and it says summed up.
Your faith is lacking if you believe that to be true.
Matthew 6:25-27 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
25 “For this reason I say to you, do not be worried about your life, as to what you will eat or what you will drink; nor for your body, as to what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? 26 Look at the birds of the air, that they do not sow, nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not worth much more than they? 27 And who of you by being worried can add a single hour to his life?
From the words of Yeshua recorded in the gospel of Matthew.
He said nothing of fulfillment by that commandment
Matthew 22:
[36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[38] This is the first and great commandment.
[39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[40] On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
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LOL! - Coming from one that looks for a false ‘rapture’ that is nowhere in the word?
Matthew 5 has nothing to do with gaining Yehova’s protection in the tribulation.
All through the NT the apostles are presenting “the commandments” and praising the sheep for keeping those commandments; why do suppose that is?
Revelation 3 will tell you why.
Who gets the protection from the hour of temptation?
The church at Philadelphia, who kept his word.
Revelation 3:
[7] And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
[8] I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
[9] Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
[10] Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
He didn't make this promise to any of the other churches!
Are you ready to be tried? Have you kept his word? Or have you said that his word is only for "the Jews?"
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Matthew “5” should say “6”
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If you die, you sleep, until the last trump!
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The last trump essentially marks the change between the rule of men, and the rule of Yeshua on Earth. The beginning of the 1000 year reign.
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The last trump essentially marks the change between the rule of men, and the rule of Yeshua on Earth. The beginning of the 1000 year reign.
It is spelled out twice in Revelation.
Revelation 20:
[4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
[5] But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This (those that lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years) is the first resurrection.
[6] Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
I have no problem with what you posted, and I was just saying what Jesus said about the ones afterwards.
John 6
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
2Peter 3
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
I don`t know how long that last day is, it may be one 24 hour day but I doubt it very much..
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Yeshua raises everyone that he is ever going to raise on the last day of human governments: The Last Trump. His wedding feast is ten days later, and his return to Earth to take the throne of David is 5 days after that.
His kingdom is going to prove that men are not to blame their failures on Satan; even with Satan in chains in the abyss, men will still fail to live up to the standards of the Father on their own.
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Ok, I am glad some one has it all figured out down the last drop , I sure don`t.
You are splitting hairs for absolutely no reason the message is the same.
I’m not looking for anything it’s you that storing stuff up looking and waiting for something.
I’m sorry that your god doesn’t look after your needs. My God and my Bible teaches me that if I’m washed in the Blood of Jesus Christ and follow his commands my needs will be met every time and all the time. From Genesis to Revelation the Lord provides for his children at all times!
Thanks for the reference to the Church of Philadelphia you just made my point.
“keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth”
That dwell part doesn’t scare me I will not be here, but it doesn’t matter anyways my faith in my Lord will carry me through to the end whenever and wherever that will be.
2 Corinthians 5:1 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
5 For we know that if the earthly tent which is our house is torn down, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
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>> “I’m not looking for anything it’s you that storing stuff up looking and waiting for something.” <<
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???????????????? What in your wild imagination might I be storing?
I’m waiting only for that which the scriptures from beginning to end declare: Our redemption at the Last Trump!
If my God, Yehova should fail to meet my needs, your supposed confidence must then be in vain, right?
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[Here’s the latest rapture goodie I’ve seen on the net!]
MARGARET MACDONALD’S MAIN POINT
By Dave MacPherson
John Darby, Paul Wilkinson, and Thomas Ice are among those who have flunked the Margaret Macdonald test by covering up and misinterpreting what she (as the pretrib rapture originator) actually stated in 1830!
My book “The Rapture Plot” discusses Margaret’s two-part main point (lines 58-63 in her 117-line account): seeing “one taken and the other left” before “THE WICKED” (Antichrist) is “revealed.”
Hal Lindsey’s “The Rapture” correctly says she taught “a partial Rapture” - that only PART of the church will be pretribbed up.
Walvoord’s “The Rapture Question” also describes partial rapturists as “pretribulationists,” and their charts show the “church” BEFORE AND AFTER their rapture in the same way Margaret was a “church splitter.” (Google “X-Raying Margaret,” “Margaret Macdonald’s Rapture Chart,” and “Pretrib Rapture’s Missing Lines.”)
Both John Cardale (in Edward Irving’s journal in Dec. 1830) and John Darby (in his 1853 book) described their visits to mid-1830 meetings Margaret conducted in her home. Darby’s “recollection” was such a mirror of the many details in Cardale’s published account 23 years earlier that I’m convinced that Darby was merely copying Cardale’s details, and Darby listed all of the details except one!
Although Darby mentioned Margaret’s “texts on overcoming” (the “tribulation” or second half of her main point), he deliberately omitted her emphasis on “the coming of the Lord” (rapture) as the church’s “deliverance” before the “judgments coming on the earth” which all visitors, except Darby, admitted was a pretrib event (the “rapture” or first half of her main point)!
Margaret’s visitors included writers for Irving’s journal “The Morning Watch.” Within weeks it reflected Margaret’s unique and original “church/church dichotomy” (”spiritual” church members raptured and “less spiritual” church members left behind) when it saw the “Philadelphia” church raptured BEFORE “the great tribulation” and the “Laodicea” church left on earth.
Well, if Darby could be a revisionist with Margaret’s words, so could Wilkerson and Ice today.
After Joe Schimmel’s Good Fight Ministries produced the “Left Behind or Led Astray?” video (the greatest video exposure ever of pretribism’s dishonesty-riddled history!), Britisher Paul Wilkinson savagely attacked it in an uber-unscholarly way in a video produced by the Berean Call Ministry titled “Left Behind or Led Astray? - Exposed.”
In order to please his think-alike idol, John Darby, Wilkinson deliberately stopped his quotation of Margaret at line 45 so that he could omit the first (pretrib) part of her main point in order to be able to falsely declare that she advocated “a post-tribulation Rapture”!
Thomas Ice has been even more nervy than Wilkinson, his British “twin.” When Ice quoted Margaret’s 117-line account in the Dallas Seminary journal he omitted ALL OF HER MAIN POINT but made up for it by quoting just BEFORE and AFTER it! (Ice’s “PhD” was “earned” at the unaccredited Tyndale Seminary in Texas which, according to World Net Daily, was heavily fined by the State of Texas for illegally issuing degrees - too many degrees for the Texas heat!
Finally, if Ice, Wilkinson and other pretrib escape artists love Jews and Israel as much as they say they do, why don’t they want to be on earth during “Jacob’s trouble” to aid and comfort Jews and others? (Some Google items related to this include “Greatest Hebrew-Christian Scholars NOT Pretrib,” “Roots of Warlike Christian Zionism,” and “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty.”
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