Posted on 02/28/2015 2:38:16 PM PST by SkyPilot
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No, I correctly stated the real population of the Earth.
Mystery Babylon is the author of the statistics that you posted. They are false, propaganda of the death culture.
“Wrong again!
What started in Paul’s life was the “mystery of Iniquity,” which is the teaching that Torah has been fulfilled and cancelled.”
The moral, spiritual corruption that started in Paul’s life:
Acts 20:29 - “For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.”
2 Timothy 1:15 - “This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.”
Revelation 22:
[10] And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
The time was at hand when the angel spoke the words to John; they have been unfolding from that moment.
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Prove it. Let's see your documentation.
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The grievous wolves were the Roman catholic ‘church’ that soon began slaughtering all that kept the commandments of Yehova. That slaughter began in the mid 4th century, and continued unabated to the 15th century.
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>> “The moral, spiritual corruption that started in Paul’s life” <<
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No, it began right after Yeshua’s blessing was spoken at the Last Supper! The slaughter of the apostles began immediately after Pentecost, as recorded in Acts.
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Another respector of Babylon?
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Yep. Thanks.
So you have no documentation?
Case Closed Evidence For Pre Tribulation Rapture
Some of the Scripture cited on God's Wrath:
Romans 1:8, Colossians 3: 5-6, Genesis 18:25, Proverbs 11:23 and 14:35, Revelation 6: 15-17, Isaiah 13:9, Romans 5:9, Ephesians 5:6.
God's wrath is spelled out as applying to the wicked only. Lot and his family were removed. Noah and his family were removed. Abraham was told by God that He would not destroy the city if any other righteous were found (none were). God also always gives warnings before He brings wrath.
The poster of the video also mentions 1 Thessalonians 5:9
"For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ"
Luke 21:36 on escaping the wrath:
"Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man."
He makes an interesting point here (before any seals are opened):
"9 And they sang a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll, And to open its seals; For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth.”
Clearly, those speaking are not the elders, since they did not come from every tribe, tongue and nation. Those speaking are neither the 4 living creatures, as they were not redeemed.
Those speaking are the Raptured saints.
It's a good video.
“No, it began right after Yeshua’s blessing was spoken at the Last Supper! The slaughter of the apostles began immediately after Pentecost, as recorded in Acts.”
Ok, so the falling away discussed in conjunction with the day of the Lord is still then clearly the departure of the Church, not some future occurrence “moral, spiritual corruption” yet to come.
"Therefore comfort one another with these words!"
How "comforting" are the words from some posters here that believers in Jesus Christ, His bride, His elect, must endure the worst Wrath of God that has ever been, or will ever be?
Not very.
But we are comforted. Because we know we are not appointed to wrath.
Those who deny the pre trib rapture either have to deny or twist much of scripture.
Amen! Not once in all of scripture are those faithful to God subjected to His wrath.
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No, there is first, no “church,” it is his assembly from Adam to the Last trump. Ekklesia is not a church.
Second, Paul made it abundantly clear that the “man of sin” must first be revealed before our redemption. The falling away that Paul spoke of is underway presently, preparing the world for the “man of sin” to take power.
Homosexual marriage, teaching primary grade children to be homosexual, unisex restrooms in schools and public places, abortion on demand, forbidding the mention of God’s word in public places, mass murder by people taking psychotropic prescriptions, this is the falling away!
What do you think could top this?
How about the ‘president’ of the united states threatening to shoot Israel’s planes out of the sky? (yes, he did!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3263011/posts?page=17
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Blasphemy is now “good video?”
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So now the tribulation of the saints by
Satan becomes the Wrath of God?
This is absolute nonsense.
The wrath of God is the bowl judgements that come after our redemption.
Also, Yeshua promises those that keep the commandments that they will be taken to a place in the desert that is prepared for them for the duration of the trib.
The price of a ticket is bearable: Obedience to his commandments. John said that his commandments “are not grievous.”
1John 5:
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Revelation 22:
[14] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city
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I bet that you believe in “global warming” too.
Homosexuality is natural and genetically caused, too, right?
Brian Williams really was shot down, right?
Hillary’s plane really was fired on too, right?
John Kerry is really a war hero...
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The Tribulation is the wrath of God. All is under His control - even Satan (see Job).
The wrath of God is the bowl judgements that come after our redemption.
Wrong again!
I guess you missed this at the 6th Seal?
"And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?" (Revelation 6:15-17)
You miss a lot you know. I feel like I am debating someone who shoots themselves in the foot, pretends it doesn't hurt, and fires another round into their other foot.
That was pathetic. It would have been wiser just to admit you have no documentation.
“No, there is first, no “church,” it is his assembly from Adam to the Last trump. Ekklesia is not a church.”
1 Thessalonians 4 - 17:
“Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
Clearly a different event then Christ’s return to Mount Olives, where he returns to earth and separates the sheep from the goats. If it was the same event there would be only goats left on earth since the sheep had already met the Lord in the air. There is no mention of Christ’s Church in old testament prophecy regarding Christ’s return to Mount Olives and those subject to Christ’s judgement. The meeting in the air however clearly involves the body of Christ “Church”.
“What do you think could top this?”
One example, The dark ages? Nevertheless I never suggesed things won’t get progressively worse.
“Second, Paul made it abundantly clear that the “man of sin” must first be revealed before our redemption.”
Where in the passage does is suggest that can’t happen on the same day of the Lord?
2 Thessalonians 2:6 - “And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.”
2Th 2:7 - “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.”
2Th 2:8 - “And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:”
And the bigger question, why would God forsake and turn his back on his children, withdraw the gift of Holy Spirit protection and basically leave them unprotected in the face of the worst persecution in history, leaving them for certain death with no chance of protection or survival? The body of Christ “Church” being abandoned and subject to the great tribulation clearly goes against the promises God made to his children repeatedly in the Church epistles.
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