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Faith Alone v. Forgiving Trespasses: How the Lord's Prayer Contradicts the Reformation
Catholic Defense ^ | February 25, 2015

Posted on 02/25/2015 11:50:17 AM PST by NYer

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To: Legatus
Elsie, may I call you Bernice, or perhaps Matilda, or better yet...



281 posted on 02/26/2015 5:54:29 PM PST by Elsie
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To: Mark17
It's no different then the Mormons or JWs.

 

If you have cable TV, there won’t be much on to watch.


 

 

 

 

If there isn’t much on to watch, you will answer your door whenever someone rings.


 

 

 

 

If you open your door, you will see mormons.


 

 

 

 

If you talk to mormons, they will trick you into “praying about whether something is true”.


 

 

 

 

If you rely on your feelings, you may become a mormon.


 

 

 

 

If you become a mormon, you will have to wear magic underwear!


 

 

 

 

If you wear magic underwear, people will immediately label you as a cultist.


DON’T be a cultist!
Get DirectTV.

282 posted on 02/26/2015 5:57:05 PM PST by Elsie
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To: CynicalBear

Thank you, I agree with you and your wise grandfather.

“Christ Alone”


283 posted on 02/26/2015 5:57:26 PM PST by genesismt
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To: metmom

Thank you, I have been on FR for many years, I never posted often but due to many moves, passwords and email addresses I forgot my password and my previous email was defunct, it was just easier to create a new account.

Used to be “Vegas Rugrat”


284 posted on 02/26/2015 5:57:26 PM PST by genesismt
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To: Resettozero
I read your question as asking why we refer to ourselves as the "Roman Catholic Church" rather than the "Roman Christian Church", so I explained where we believe the name "Catholic Church" comes from, which is pretty simply the term "catholic church" or put another way "universal church" that was quite commonly used to refer to the Church in the early period of Christian history.

I also gave examples of other churches and communions that do not have the word "Christian" in their name, where there is no intent to "detach" themselves from Christ in their presentation of themselves to the world, as you wondered whether that was the intent of the Catholic Church in not using the word Christian in their official name.

While on the topic of the official name of the Church, I noted that "Roman Catholic Church" is not the proper name of the Catholic Church, which has several rites including the Roman one:

Although the Diocese of Rome is central to the Catholic Church, this does not mean that the Roman rite, or, as is sometimes said, the Latin rite, is co-terminus with the Church as a whole; that would mean neglecting the Byzantine, Chaldean, Maronite or other Oriental rites which are all very much part of the Catholic Church today, as in the past.

I most emphatically did not think that you had never heard of the Catholic Church or the Pope in Rome or the Roman Rite. Quite to the contrary, I would say that many if not most Catholics n the English Speaking world (where this term is quite common) are not aware that "Roman Catholic Church" is not the official name.

Since your question was sincere perhaps you could either disagree with some of the facts I posted in reply or ask for other ones to answer your question, or state it in the form of a proposition that we could discuss.

285 posted on 02/26/2015 6:21:39 PM PST by edwinland
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To: Iscool
"And Catholic is not the same as catholic... "

Could you please explain the difference between the two and how it was relevant during the first centuries of the church, from which time the Catholic Church derives her name?

286 posted on 02/26/2015 6:27:43 PM PST by edwinland
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To: rwa265

I’m sorry for your loss.

Losing a child has got to be one of the worst things a parent could ever go through.

It had to be very difficult on your family.


287 posted on 02/26/2015 7:05:51 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: redleghunter; Iscool; ealgeone; CynicalBear; Gamecock

Interesting how they are the ones to get it banned as a hate site because of stuff on there about Catholicism, but don’t hesitate to use the very site they get banned for use against them, against others.

The hypocrisy is staggering.


288 posted on 02/26/2015 7:10:28 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; redleghunter; Iscool; ealgeone; CynicalBear

At least the 3rd time in the last 2 weeks.


289 posted on 02/26/2015 7:24:42 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Infantry officer.)
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To: edwinland; Resettozero

Your responses look good to me. I really do not see anything disingenuous about them at all.

Peace


290 posted on 02/26/2015 7:53:41 PM PST by rwa265
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To: metmom

Thank you, metmom. I truly appreciate that.

Mom had an experience that helped ease the pain. She was given a sleeping pill, and as she drifted off to sleep, she prayed the 23rd Psalm, the beautiful King James Version. She does not know if she was semi-conscious or was dreaming, but she saw a vision of a woman handing a baby to a figure dressed in white, who then walked into woods and disappeared. The next day, she learned that her son passed at about that time. “Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.”

Peace


291 posted on 02/26/2015 8:14:43 PM PST by rwa265
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To: Religion Moderator

Do you ever make this warning to Protestants who say that Catholics are idolaters, pagans, demon-possessed, etc.?


292 posted on 02/26/2015 9:37:19 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
Of course. But understand that in order for something to be "making it personal" it must be speaking of another Freeper, personally - not a group.

If you say "Baptists are heretics" that is not "making it personal" but if you say "you are a heretic" that is "making it personal."

Forms of "making it personal" include reading minds, attributing motives and making the thread "about" another Freeper personally.

293 posted on 02/26/2015 9:40:42 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Gamecock

“They worship a church of their own making.”

That’s funny....since that’s what Protestants do. Only the Catholic Church was started by Jesus Christ. Your sects were founded by mere mortals. Especially those of you who don’t belong to a particular denomination yet call yourselves Christians.


294 posted on 02/26/2015 11:37:17 PM PST by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: ealgeone

How do you know who can or cannot hear us in Heaven? That’s your opinion, but you cannot presume to know exactly what occurs there.


295 posted on 02/26/2015 11:40:56 PM PST by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Someone found #252 offensive in some way...

The CAtholic Church does a REALLY loud job of proclaiming DEAD people to be ALIVE!


No one who thinks dead people are dead is a Christian.

SOMEONE needs to explain away THIS verse about DEAD PEOPLE IN GRAVES!!


1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

296 posted on 02/27/2015 3:06:43 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Arthur McGowan
Limbo. Provided the theory was true.

Rome has THEORIES??

297 posted on 02/27/2015 3:09:02 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Arthur McGowan
Limbo. Provided the theory was true.

Pfft!

How low can you go?

298 posted on 02/27/2015 3:09:24 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Arthur McGowan
Limbo was a theory about what happened to unbaptized babies at death.

Babies?

The question was about the PEOPLE referred to. All baptized people would go to 1) Hell; 2) Heaven; 3) Purgatory, followed by Heaven.

299 posted on 02/27/2015 3:11:07 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Arthur McGowan
No baptized person could go to Limbo because a baptized person in the state of mortal sin would be damned, and a baptized person in the state of grace would eventually enter Heaven.

HMMMmmm...

Looks like the REQUIRMENT for baptism to be NECESSARY for salvation is a bit, shall we say, ineffective.

300 posted on 02/27/2015 3:23:20 AM PST by Elsie
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