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Are Christians responsible for most wars?
RZIM ^ | 02/23/2015 | Ravi Zacarias

Posted on 02/23/2015 2:56:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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Written in 2007 but made relevant based on Obama's statement about the Crusades today.
1 posted on 02/23/2015 2:56:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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DEATH BY GOVERNMENT
By R.J. Rummel

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

An extraordinary resource if you want the numbers.


2 posted on 02/23/2015 2:58:25 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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Also interesting and related to this, is the author's response to Obama's National Prayer Breakfast Speech two weeks ago.

Read it here: A PRESIDENTIAL BLUNDER: MY RESPONSE TO OBAMA’S ADDRESS AT THE NATIONAL PRAYER BREAKFAST
3 posted on 02/23/2015 2:58:39 PM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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No. Next question.


4 posted on 02/23/2015 2:59:26 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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The left has a bug up their butt about the Crusades. Just like the Constitution, they get the facts wrong.


5 posted on 02/23/2015 3:00:30 PM PST by Fledermaus (The GOP is dead to me! McConnell and Boehner can drop dead!!)
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I have heard liberals claim that Nazism was a Christian movement and that Stalin was a devout Christian. How do you argue with insanity?


6 posted on 02/23/2015 3:03:37 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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What a stupid question it is.


7 posted on 02/23/2015 3:05:50 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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Had the same argument and when you tell them some facts and what NAZI stands for they just shrug their shoulders and walk off.


8 posted on 02/23/2015 3:06:35 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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During the Crusades Christianity was merely the form through which Western life, expansion, growth and power needs expressed themselves. We were for centuries a living growing civilization. Today we are dying degenerates incapable of resisting those we once governed.


9 posted on 02/23/2015 3:17:44 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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You could have thrown Mao and Pol Pot into the argument, but no, you can’t argue with insanity.


10 posted on 02/23/2015 3:26:05 PM PST by rightwingcrazy
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That’s the main problem with Progressives... facts have no actual value to them. In fact, nothing has value to them. They are total Nihilists. So when you present facts to them it has no impact. And for them there is no appreciable difference between lying and the truth... they are essentially the same thing to them.


11 posted on 02/23/2015 3:26:15 PM PST by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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If Christains would keep their noses out of people like Hilter's business, there would be fewer wars...but more death.

And if we would have just evacuated the U.S. citizens out of the territory of Hawaii and let Japan have it in 1941, we at have never been plagued with Obama.

12 posted on 02/23/2015 3:27:40 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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Pretty sure Hitler, Stalin, Zedong, etc. weren’t Christians.


13 posted on 02/23/2015 3:43:49 PM PST by Politicalkiddo ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." -George Washington)
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bkmk


14 posted on 02/23/2015 3:49:13 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Anytime those atheist filth feel like accusing Christians of “most wars,” here are some numbers (from varied sources) to throw at them...

Killings at the hands of:

Pagan Nazis - 10,000,000 killed
Atheist Communists - 100,000,000+ killed
State Shinto Japanese - 2,000,000+ killed
Muslims - 270,000,000+ killed


15 posted on 02/23/2015 3:51:42 PM PST by ScottinVA (Communism, liberalism and Islam: Kindred ideologies dedicated to America's destruction.)
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Read the Old Testament. There was more than just a little warfare reported there. FYI the Jews were pretty knowledgeable shrewd and damned tough fighters then too. It was all hand to hand and up close and personal too.


16 posted on 02/23/2015 4:02:04 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Jesus noted the centurions faith as the greatest in all of Israel. That probably sealed Jesus betrayal since the locals hated the soldiers— just the way the world preaches hate of American soldiers today.

Witness the silent chill of the oscars toward American hero Kyle.

Soldiers deserve gods honor just as Jesus showed it.

He never criticized the soldiers even as they beat him. He did criticize the Pharisees though.


17 posted on 02/23/2015 4:14:49 PM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent / Cruz 2016)
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I used to have a friend who tried to add the numbers up.
Not only does religion not kill more people than all the wars it doesn’t kill as many as major diseases.

#1 Cause of death all time = old age
#2 - #9 were diseases I have forgotten the order but Flu, Small pox, various plagues, Cholera, Diphtheria, Measles and so forth
#10 was secular wars
#11 was natural disasters
#12 - #16 Yet more diseases
You didn’t reach religious wars until number #17 and most of those deaths were caused by Islam


18 posted on 02/23/2015 4:20:10 PM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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The simple answer to this idiotic claim is that it is FACTUALLY FALSE.

According to what is considered the definitive book on historical conflict, ‘the Encyclopedia of War’ documenting over 1700 wars in recorded history, less than 7% could be traced to religious motivations.

Religion has very rarely been the cause for war. In antiquity, this was even rarer. The Persians, Babylonians, Mesopotamians, Egyptians, etc, never went to war for religious purposes and in fact welcomed their conquered enemies’ gods into their own pantheons! It is true that there have been wars of the monotheistic faiths, but these are few and far between, and typically pretty low on the bodycount list.

Even Islam actually comes out not looking too worse for wear as a motivation when one looks at all the wars fought for secular political ideology, right of succession, territorial conquest, resource grabs, or colonialism.

People will go to war over anything that they care about strongly, and religion falls into this category. However, religion has been a minor factor in human conflicts simply because unlike the motivations listed above, religious impeti for war often carry burdensome resitrictions on how conflicts may be waged and for what purpose.

There is no ‘just war theory’ when your aim is just to plunder gold mines.


19 posted on 02/23/2015 4:46:48 PM PST by Viennacon
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I have heard liberals claim that Nazism was a Christian movement and that Stalin was a devout Christian. How do you argue with insanity?

LOL. Did some idiot actually say that?

20 posted on 02/23/2015 5:40:37 PM PST by Ditto
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