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Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?
self | 12-14-14 | ealgeone

Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone

The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; blessedvirginmary; catholic; mary; mystery; mysterybabylon; prayer; rcinventions; vanities; vanity; worship
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To: terycarl
.I just can't figure out where you come up with most of your ideas concerning Catholicism....?????????

Try reading the TEXT in Playboy; and not just slobber over the pictures.


I'm not picking on you, I enjoy your posts, especially the great pictures...

2,141 posted on 12/19/2014 12:09:06 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
what did they teach that was in error and How do you know that???

It's in the BOOK!!!

The one that you guys get every three years during Mass.



Of course; if it's in LATIN......

2,142 posted on 12/19/2014 12:10:59 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl; teppe; Normandy
all who follow Christ are Christians and Catholics are not a cult.

all who follow Christ are Christians and MormonISM is the ONLY true religion.

--Mormon_Dude(When would be a good time for...)

2,143 posted on 12/19/2014 12:13:12 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
see how easy english 101 is??

 
 


Welcome to CATHOLICism 101

 

While we are waiting to start; enjoy the artwork on our walls.

If some of it seems shifty to you, just look at it real closely

 and it will stop moving, but another location will then start to crawl on you.

Do NOT think the way we PRACTICE our religion is this way!

 


 

 

2,144 posted on 12/19/2014 12:15:32 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
too often

Too often you say?

Then why not DEAL with it and stop IGNORING the words of CATHOLIC leaders?

2,145 posted on 12/19/2014 12:16:29 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl

Yes she is; you are in denial.


2,146 posted on 12/19/2014 12:17:08 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
The Judgment seat of Christ would make an awesome thread.

We might get there...

2,147 posted on 12/19/2014 12:17:53 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear

There is not one sentence in scripture that makes the Holy Spirit’s call “irresistible,” and chapter upon chapter that say the contrary.

We are creatures of will, not automatons.

Being a part of the Bride of Yeshua is the sole great prize of human existence, and will be forced upon no one.
.


2,148 posted on 12/19/2014 12:19:03 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: metmom
We might get there...

We can post the few verses that deal with it and then get THOUSANDS of words of OPINION defending or rejecting each others ideas about it.

2,149 posted on 12/19/2014 12:19:23 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Religion Moderator
Stating that a poster will become a part of a particular belief system is mindreading, which is making it personal.

I found it to be wishful thinking on their part about the future; not mind-reading.

2,150 posted on 12/19/2014 12:21:02 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
You're class of 98, which makes you having been on this forum for SIXTEEN years and you claim that you haven't yet figured out how to ping more than one person at a time?????

SOMEone needs to brush up on their FR101 lessons!

2,151 posted on 12/19/2014 12:22:15 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor
>>There is not one sentence in scripture that makes the Holy Spirit’s call “irresistible,”<<

What in the world caused that outburst? Not in any way did that post indicate "irresistible". Take that burr out from under the saddle son.

2,152 posted on 12/19/2014 12:22:32 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: terycarl; metmom

The mother of Yeshua’s earthly, fleshly body.

His spirit is eternal, and in no way derived from any facet of Mary.

His present body was not of mortal birth, he is the First born “Son of God,” not the son of Mary.
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2,153 posted on 12/19/2014 12:24:38 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: annalex
It is a gross error of the Protestant to treat the Scripture as a complete rule of faith, the role that Christ intended for the Catholic Church:

I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to [Peter] the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven. (Matthew 16:18-19)

Well, as you can see from many, though not all, of the dissenting posts on this thread, this verse becomes cast aside, as it would acknowledge the Primacy of Peter and his successors, the next 15 of which were martyred for their Faith.

Read the thread and you can see. It's easier for some dissenters to make fun like spoiled children, criticize like bullies on the school playground, and to interpret the Bible as they themselves see fit.

Note also how very few have ventured to declare a denomination, a spiritual director, a mentor they can trace farther back than his/her (the mentor's) own dissention; nor do they say how they found their own beliefs, what it was that brought them to where they are now.

See how few dissenting posts there are which proclaim the writer's faith; rather the "contributor" finds it necessary to bash Catholicism in order to justify their own erroneous beliefs.

We must love ALL our brothers and sisters in humanity; we must continue to pray for them all, whether they are genuinely concerned with our spiritual welfare (as I sincerely believe some truly are), or not.

There are always those who are willing to have a mature, adult discussion; yet there are those who are not capable of doing so, and use childish tactics unworthy of a Follower of Christ. By their fruits you shall know them.

There does come a time when we must walk away, on the strength of our own beliefs, shaking the dust from our feet, in a wise, yet gentle manner. I've personally heard it all before, and it has not shaken my Catholic Faith. I chose It and I believe It with all my heart!

God bless you!

2,154 posted on 12/19/2014 12:25:22 PM PST by Grateful2God (preastat fides supplementum sensuum defectui)
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To: CynicalBear

It is neither an outburst, nor an accusation toward you.

It is just a statement of the facts presented in the word of God.
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2,155 posted on 12/19/2014 12:26:49 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: metmom; terycarl
It appears that he HAS learned how NOW...



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terycarl to nicmarlo; caww
Good post

compared to what???


2,156 posted on 12/19/2014 12:29:08 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
1,931 posted on ‎12‎/‎18‎/‎2014‎ ‎6‎:‎35‎:‎08‎ ‎PM by terycarl ( common sense prevails over all)
2,157 posted on 12/19/2014 12:29:59 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
you need the Catholic church to even have the bible and in reality, she is the only true source of interpretation of that Bible....no one else can do it CORRECTLY.

Arrogant smugness is SO unbecoming...

2,158 posted on 12/19/2014 12:30:40 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
dead folk have had their personal judgement and are either in Heaven, Hell or purgatory...

Just WHERE in the Book or in Catholic tradition is THIS little tidbit of info found?

2,159 posted on 12/19/2014 12:31:48 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annalex
Since the Church in Acts 15 is the same Church offering the Eucharist, clearly, the prohibition on eating blood was understood to refer to things other that the Eucharist.

Ha ha!

The 'Eucharist' isn't even MENTIONED in the LETTER!

2,160 posted on 12/19/2014 12:32:59 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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