Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

self | 12-14-14 | ealgeone

[ealgeone]

The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.

[editor-surveyor]

OK, I see what you’re saying, but backsliding is a better term for the danger that Paul was trying to address. It may start with a small departure, but it then advances to bigger and bigger transgressions, and soon all is lost.

We may not know the full story of how Esau got to the point of disrespecting his inheritance, but I tend to suspect that it too was a result of a gradual loss of faith over time, or a belief that he could scam his brother, since his parentage was solid, it is hard to believe that it was a sudden rebellion.

[Elsie]

I got onea them shapely young wives; too!

A circle is a shape...

[Elsie]

Dang!

I was gonna post this ANONYMOUSLY!!!

If you guys don't hea... %#(%(((#9 867&^&#

[Elsie]

“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.”

And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and THE BOOKS WERE OPENED. Another book was opened WHICH IS THE BOOK OF LIFE. The dead were judged according to their works as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to their works.

[CynicalBear]

>>It may start with a small departure, but it then advances to bigger and bigger transgressions, and soon all is lost.<<

I agree completely. To turn back and put God first is paramount. But we wouldn't want to leave anyone with the impression that if they think they have backslidden (is that a word?) it's useless to repent since they will never be taken back anyway so continue in that state. Scripture has multiple examples of those who have repented after turning away from God.

[Elsie]

Yes; though I’ve had no experience with it.

Hopefully never will!

[CynicalBear]

Yo Elsie, a bug dun ate the rest of your post and chewed on the rest somthin fierce.

[Elsie]

Praying to Mary thinking that she can bend His ear displays an appalling lack of trust in God, His promises, and His character.

Praying to Mary thinking that she can bend His ear displays an appalling lack of logical thinking!!!

[editor-surveyor]

It becomes personally “useless” because we become accustomed to easy sin.

[Elsie]

But you didn’t get pestered by Dracula; did you!

[Elsie]

Do you equate the RCC with the LDS?

They learned a LOT from you guys!!

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Mormonism claims itself to uniquely be "the Church" claims a unique and authoritative priesthood, thereby denying the royal priesthood of all believers adds to the Holy Bible (with the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price) accepts multiple satanic visions as being from God undermines the power of Jesus' blood by its view of personal suffering for the expiation of sins sings praise songs about Joseph Smith, Jr. has strange doctrines regarding marriage (polygamy accepted in early days) believes in God the mother (who has conceived multitudes of spirit children) claims the head of their group speaks infallibly at times redefines "saint" to mean a living, breathing Mormon, instead of a bible-defined child of God accepts and spreads "another gospel" (Gal. 1:8,9)- good works, water baptism and church membership professes itself as Christian; Jesus as God, Savior, Lord and Son of God; Jesus' atoning death and resurrection doctrines are sending millions to Hell and they need to be openly refuted with Scripture

Catholicism claims itself to uniquely be "the Church" claims a unique and authoritative priesthood, thereby denying the royal priesthood of all believers adds to the Holy Bible (with sacred tradition) accepts multiple satanic visions as being from God undermines the power of Jesus' blood by its view of personal suffering for the expiation of sins sings praise songs about Mary has strange doctrines regarding marriage (celibacy still practiced among its clergy) believes in the mother of God (who is the sinless Queen of Heaven) claims the head of their group speaks infallibly at times redefines "saint" to mean a physically dead Catholic who was afterwards "canonized," instead of a bible-defined child of God accepts and spreads "another gospel" (Gal. 1:8,9) - good works, the sacraments, Mary and church membership professes itself as Christian; Jesus as God, Savior, Lord and Son of God; Jesus' atoning death and resurrection doctrines are sending hundreds of millions to Hell and they need to be openly refuted with Scripture teaches and practices bowing before and kissing statues WORSHIPS the consecrated communion wafer as God claims Mary is their life, sweetness, hope and most gracious advocate (as revealed in the Rosary) claims Mary was raised bodily into Heaven claims they get to Jesus by first going to Mary

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/catholicmormon.htm

[Elsie]

The errors started right after the crucifixion, and grew exponentially after the last apostle died.

I saw the Muslims blamed for the demise of the seven churches in Asia mentioned by John.

[Elsie]

There have been EXPERTS who have defended the Catholic church very successfully for 2,000 years, I am not arrogant enough to think that I can handle that task any better.....unlike some

Now WHY are you trying to upset JX and Vlad?

[CynicalBear]

Not even sure what you mean by that one. The Holy Spirit convicts those who He is calling and they know it. They may not realize it’s the Holy Spirit but they will realize that if they repent.

[CynicalBear]

No but cinnamon rolls on Sunday morning with a hint of garlic isn’t what mom had in mind.

[Elsie]

other than saying that you have something blessed by the Pope, you could be right......so?

WOW!

Cue the Hallelujah Chorus!

[Elsie]

that statement was made by a PROTESTANT?????????

And repeated by a Catholic and re-posted by a PROT.

So???

It's a bird... It's a plane...

[Elsie]

...we pray THROUGH HER ....holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us ...

Mary; you got some prayin' to do!!!

[Elsie]

...one of the very reasons the Catholic Church uses to justify their assumption of the assumption is that there is no evidence of her remains.

You got alien relics?

No?

That PROVES they exist!!!