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Why Not Polygamy? A Question to Advocates of Gay Marriage
Patheos ^ | November 17, 2014 | Roger E. Olson

Posted on 12/04/2014 8:40:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The biggest thing I see holding legalized polygamy back - at least for a while - will be things like tax codes and inheritance laws. I can see endless legal battles and constitutional questions raised over which wife’s (or husband’s) children get survivor benefits, over figuring income for tax rates (can one wife file jointly, while the other separate?) and so on.

I do see it as a very real possibility though, in terms of a push for it being socially acceptable. If I were a polygamist (and I am not), I would argue that if we can accept the idea of two men or two women being married, why not a man and two women?

Of course, gay activist types pooh-pooh such notions, arguing they are separate legal issues. There may be some truth in that, but it is also true that judicial decisions have consequences beyond the courtroom. One you begin to redefine something that has been unchanging and as clearly defined as marriage, it loses that air of immutability and permanence. The door is opened to any group seeking to expand the definition to include their agenda.


21 posted on 12/04/2014 10:03:16 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is always intense.)
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To: melsec; DarkSavant

You can do that now, the thing is that people want their marriage to be legal, just knowing it yourself doesn’t help much, for instance being in the military with a wife and kids, yet not legally married.


22 posted on 12/04/2014 10:08:49 PM PST by ansel12
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To: DarkSavant

You bet!!


23 posted on 12/04/2014 10:14:01 PM PST by Isabel2010
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If there is a constitutional right to same sex marriage (which I dispute), then I don’t see how you can argue there is no constitutional right to polygamy.


24 posted on 12/04/2014 10:14:54 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As the man who's probably the world's foremost Bible scholar on homosexuality, Robert Gagnon (conservative evangelical, robgagnon.net )has said, polygamy is not only logically next but is inevitable, because: The level of deviancy from the biblical norm--of one man and one woman, is LESS for polygamy (one man and several women) than for homosexuality.

In certain times and places (notably in ancient times) when there was a shortage of men--usually due to war--polygamy was allowed by God, simply as a practical necessity. A woman alone was then either a prostitute, a beggar...or dead. So, like slavery (where POW's became dead....OR slaves) polygamy was allowed, though never ideal--and never God's original plan.

Homosexual relationships though, by biblical morality, were NEVER allowed, period. They were always seen as a sign of the most depraved and corrupt people--hence our term "sodomy."

According to Dr. Gagnon, Old Testament scripture treats homosexual acts--on about the same level as incest--which in ancient Israel demanded the death penalty. Polygamy on the other hand--while warned about (Kings for example were warned about having many wives...and making treaties through marriages (a very common practice)), was allowed...

It took Jesus teaching--bringing back marriage to Adam and Eve--and thus limiting causes for divorce--which reminded God's people of the original design--of one man and one woman-- (thus by omission--condemning homosexual relationships....) so that the Christian church first banned polygamy for Church leaders and very soon after made polygamy unacceptable for all Christians.

25 posted on 12/04/2014 10:39:38 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

homosexual “marriage”
plus
lowering the age of consent as far as possible
plus
polygamy

and what do you get?
Islamic Sharia Law.

(That’s the obvious goal, anyway...preparing USA for IslamoNazi rule)

or else, its all an amazing coincidence....


26 posted on 12/04/2014 10:49:58 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..) c)
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To: ansel12

You may have to end up doing both if you want both a) A Christian Ceremony b) Official recognition. It is the way they do it in Singapore and some other countries.


27 posted on 12/05/2014 12:17:39 AM PST by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

When the day comes (it’ll happen by 2016, I think)....that in New Hampshire....a 45-year old lesbian will apply to marry a local 13-year old girl, with her mother’s consent (this is the legal deal that exists there)...the news media will sit there and finally start to ask some questions.

I do agree....polygamy is the next step and ought to be legalized somewhere within five years. There’s nothing logical anymore to prevent it.


28 posted on 12/05/2014 12:48:15 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: melsec
You may have to end up doing both if you want both a) A Christian Ceremony b) Official recognition.

Sure, some may already do that here, the point is that people can do whatever they want in private and always could, but most people want their marriage to be legal.

29 posted on 12/05/2014 1:04:37 AM PST by ansel12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gay’s would love nothing more than to see traditional marriage ridiculed and destroyed even more than what they have already done. The question to ask gays is why not normalize pedophilia. That is how they maintain, and grow their numbers.


30 posted on 12/05/2014 1:24:39 AM PST by pallis
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To: Kickass Conservative

How about unicorn marriage - this group can marry themselves every time they stick their heads up their own A$$es.


31 posted on 12/05/2014 2:09:37 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Kickass Conservative
Why not Incestuous Marriage

I want to marry my dog (not for the reason you maybe thinking). I would be able to get another tax credit, use ObamaCare for the Vet bills and take out life insurance. After all dogs don't live that long.

I also want to marry my sons, no estate taxes!

See how fun changing everything can be......

32 posted on 12/05/2014 2:32:51 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I imagine there are some fringe Mormons asking the same question, along with a substantial fraction of Muslims in our country. I expect polygamy to be the law of the land in my lifetime.


33 posted on 12/05/2014 3:21:02 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Marriage is a religious institution, controlled by religious rules. Government should have nothing to do with it.

At some age, we are an "Adult". Codify that. Then, what two, three or five consenting adults choose to do amongst themselves is none of my business.

All legal considerations can be handled through contracts. If we stop bestowing special rights on groups, like homeowner interest tax deductions, inheritance based on "marriage", bans on distilling (free the shine!) we can move to a more equal society.

Get the government out my pocket, my backyard, and my bedroom.
34 posted on 12/05/2014 4:12:35 AM PST by Macoozie (1) Win the Senate 2) Repeal Obamacare 3) Impeach Roberts)
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Marriage is a religious institution, controlled by religious rules. Government should have nothing to do with it.

How would non-religious people marry using your model? Would it just be unavailable to them?

35 posted on 12/05/2014 4:17:33 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Polygamy has much more going for it than homosexual marriage - it is natural, it is scriptural, and in certain societies such as ours, where more women want husbands than men want wives, it is logical.

But more to the point: Every single legal argument, every court decision, which has enabled same-sex couples to marry applies with MUCH greater force to legal polygamy.

If the Supreme Court hears the right case, it will be legal, and very soon.


36 posted on 12/05/2014 4:22:10 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble

Wait until NAMBLA forces the lowering of consent. Then you will see homosexuals having group marriages with 6 year old boys.

This is what the homosexuals want more than anything.


37 posted on 12/05/2014 4:31:36 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I did at first. Sorry ‘bout that. Good post, I must say.


38 posted on 12/05/2014 5:18:40 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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To: OneWingedShark

Jesus was pretty clear on that. So once a “town” rejects the Gospel, they basically are given over to depraved minds, in for a penny, in for a pound.


39 posted on 12/05/2014 5:22:51 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

” I am only talking about arrangements where all the parties to it are knowledgeable, free adults and where there is no abuse or coercion.”

Who are you to say abuse and coercion are wrong? What about people who are coercionexuals? Who are you to stand on the courthouse steps and deny them their right to marry?


40 posted on 12/05/2014 5:29:58 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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