My Plea “I’m a Divorced and Remarried Mother. Please, Don’t Change Church Practice.”

First Things ^ | November 3, 2014 | Luma Simms

[353FMG]

I like your answer.

We, in this life, like to bend God’s rule to our advantage.

We think of Jesus as that kind and forgiving Person who ate with people, forgave people, healed people, raised them from the dead and who never had an unkind word for anyone.

But, He was the toughest Hombre ever. He knew beforehand what kind of death He would suffer and, although He could have easily avoided it, He underwent His fate because He was well aware that it was for the salvation of mankind.

If we are to be like Him, we have to become as tough as He was, as all the martyrs understood throughout the ages and still do today. Christianity is not for the weak of heart.

My greatest fear has always been that I would not measure up to His expectations in time of persecution. I can only pray that I will not fail.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

I thought that you were making the argument that a couple of others have made in this thread that there is a problem that she isn't living continently at the present time.

Well, there could be a problem with that, depending on the circumstances (that we don't know, and aren't any of our business). But there's no problem with her abstaining from Communion for now.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

--- We, in this life, like to bend God’s rule to our advantage. ---

Yes. We can fool ourselves fairly easily. We're blessed to have a living Magisterium to help us follow the narrow road.

And yes, Jesus was tough. And loving. Even when he drove the money-changers out of the Temple.

[terycarl]

Jesus is not found in a church or wafer. Nobody has to go somewhere to encounter Him>

sure He is...and of course you don't have to go anywhere to encounter Him spiritually, but to receive Him physically, Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity, under the appearance of bread and wine, you do, indeed, need to go to Mass at your local Catholic church and you were taught that....

[Old Yeller]

I’m in RCIA now, and it’s good to be coming home.

Christians refer to heaven as home and we long for the time that we get there. Catholics refer to the Catholic Church as home.

[Old Yeller]

WOW, protestants have it easy...I have to get my butt out of bed and actually drive a few miles to church to attend Mass

How many Heavenly points do you figure you score each time you do it? And you seem bitter about it. Is it an obligation and not a desire for you?

[ebb tide]

Thanks for the ping.

[DuncanWaring]

When one takes a wedding vow to “... love and honor ... for better or worse ... until death do us part”, is that an actual vow or is it just a set of lines one reads, like the elementary-school Thanksgiving Pageant, for ornamental purposes only?

[sitetest]

You’re welcome.

[Iscool]

Correct. So the way to be allowed to partake again is to hire a hitman to kill your ex, and then go to Confession and receive absolution for the murder.

That's pretty logical...As long as you repent you are allowed to partake in the Eucharist...

[Religion Moderator]

If the article makes a simple statement of historical fact that raises no issue the non members would have an interest in disputing, then the caucus label may be used.

[Iscool]

Conversely, the remarried divorce[e] is not repentant (save in the case where the two have agreed to live without marital relations). Let's be clear: it is not the divorce that was necessarily the sin. It was the attempted remarriage that was the sin, and the sin is renewed each time the remarried person has sex with his or her new “spouse.” It is adultery.

I can not disagree with your Church's doctrine...Hey, it's your church...But Jesus gave no such command to His church...Why does your religion make a liar out of God???

Mat 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

If a divorce is the result of fornication, the one who did not commit the fornication is allowed to re-marry and have a healthy sex life...

And these people are under the law...Sabbath worshiping, pork abstaining Jews under the law...

[Iscool]

Why is this person not legitimately your spouse? Because you already have a spouse, the person you divorced.

That is not biblical so it is ignorance in action...

[DuncanWaring]

If a divorce is the result of fornication, the one who did not commit the fornication is allowed to re-marry ...

What if the stated reason for the divorce is just the standard "irreconcilable differences"?

[Iscool]

Balthasar wants to impress upon the reader the objective reality of spiritual communion. It is not the absence of something but the presence of him.

Spiritual communion without the Eucharist...Now that's a new one...Being in the real presence without the Eucharist...Without the Mass...That ought to wake up a few Catholics...

[Iscool]

Christians refer to heaven as home and we long for the time that we get there. Catholics refer to the Catholic Church as home.

And that as close to 'home' as most of them will ever get...

[Iscool]

What if the stated reason for the divorce is just the standard "irreconcilable differences"?

I'll take that as an honest acknowledgment that your religion is in error...But to answer your question, you go to Paul's epistles which are the books given to Paul by Jesus to present to His church...

1Co 7:27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.

Are you divorced, seek not a new wife...

1Co 7:28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.

If you marry a new wife, you have not sinned...

[DuncanWaring]

I'll take that as an honest acknowledgment that your religion is in error...

Not hardly.

[Iscool]

I'll take that as an honest acknowledgment that your religion is in error...

Not hardly.

Well it should...Your religious doctrine contradicts the bible on marriage and divorce...

[Alex Murphy]

I'm in RCIA now, and it’s good to be coming home.

Should we be surprised?