Posted on 10/13/2014 5:35:08 PM PDT by RaceBannon
The Tyndale New Testament of 1525 was the first English translation based on the Greek and the first English Bible to be printed. (The Wycliffe Bible was based on Latin and published only in hand-written manuscripts.) The King James Bible is an edition of Tyndale’s masterly translation.
William Tyndale is therefore the most important one name in the history of the English Bible and one of most important names in history of the English people.
TYNDALE’S TIMES
Tyndale was born to a time of great change and turmoil. It was a time of international travel and discovery. When he was eight years old, Columbus discovered America. When Tyndale was fourteen, Vasco da Gama sailed around the Cape of Good Hope to India, and the great era of world exploration had begun.
It was also a time of great persecution. Just three years before Tyndale was born, the Spanish Inquisition was established, and by the time Tyndale was fifteen years old, 8,800 had been burned to death and 90,000 imprisoned under the pope’s Inquisitor General in Spain, Thomas de Torquemada. As Tyndale grew to manhood, terrible persecutions were being poured out upon the Christians in Bohemia and Moravia and against the Waldensians in Italy and France. For example, when Tyndale was four, an army of 18,000 Catholics made war against the Waldensian Christians of Piedmont in Northern Italy, destroying entire towns and villages.
It was also a time for printing. In 1453, just 41 years before Tyndale was born, Constantinople was overrun by the Muslims and the Greek scholars had fled to Western Europe with their valuable manuscripts, including the Byzantine Greek New Testament, which had been preserved for 1,000 years through the Dark Ages.
The first book on movable type, a Latin Bible, had been printed in 1456, less than 40 years before Tyndale’s birth. Only eight years before Tyndale’s birth, a printing press had been set up in England by William Caxton, and by the time he was born printing presses had been set up in more than 120 cities of Europe.
Bibles in the common languages had begun to be printed in 1488 with the publication of the Bohemian Bible, just a few years before Tyndale was born.
no, not the King James
Well, the truth some times has to include the truth
you must have missed the thread yesterday where the inquisition was defended
you must have missed the thread yesterday where someone actually defended the inquisition
no doubt, it was bloody woth ways
one was an institgator at first, the other a revenger, but that made more revengers
My family escaped Ireland because they were persecuted by Catholics AND Protestants alike
Being a Baptist in Ireland in the 1800’s was not easy :)
Regarding a comment to you upthread, the original Douay-Rheims went very much unadopted and ignored. This, to the point of the later revised Challoner Douay-Rheims being largely drawn from the widely adopted King James. But, here we see an apparent attempt at replacing the KJV as instrumental in standardizing the English language, attributing this instead to that original Douay-Rheims. I’ve seen similar attempts to claim the Founders. Revise history to claim the positive, revise history to deny the negative. It’s disturbing.
Should I condemn the Inquisition?
In the Middle Ages, nominally Christian kings in poorly evangelized lands claimed that the Christian faith entitled them to do horrible, wicked things, such as torture their political opponents while accusing them as heresy. Correctly perceiving that this discredited Christianity and slandered Christ, the Catholic Church created the separation of Church and State by demanding that the State had no right to try and punish heresy.
Instead, the Church itself would conduct any trial of heresy through the establishment of the papal inquisition. As a revolution in jurisprudence, Torture was prohibited by the Papal Inquisition (defined as any form of interrogation that causes permanent injury or disfigurement, or inflicts pain for greater than 15 minutes, or inflicts pain more than once)
The Spanish reconquistas (who liberated Spain from the Muslims), however, complained that the Islamic practice of subersion through taqiyya made separation of Church and State impossible. THerefore, the Church granted a unique privilege to Spain to allow the blending of civil and ecclesiastical (church) trials. This was allowed only in this one instance, because the Church recognized the inherently corrupting effect.
Therefore, I join the Catholic Church in condemning the excesses of Torquemada and his inquisitors. I also condemn the vigilantes who led the King of Spain to drive the Jews from Spain in an unjust attempt to maintain civil order, but I emphasize that these vigilantes operated outside the law as imposed by the Church, and were condemned even in their day by every ecclesiastical authority. But I found it irrelevant to reaffirm the condemnations of the Catholic Church, since those people are no longer alive. I find it only relevant to defend the Catholic Church against the absurd slanders it so frequently faces, including the legitimate purpose of the Inquisition, because, unlike the sinners of the 15th and 16th centuries, these slanderers, liars and frauds are still all around us.
When Tyndale submitted his version of the scriptures it is said that he not only allowed them to be “corrected,” but to be disallowed and also burnt” if they were found wanting), he would be pleased to know that most of his work was excepted by the translators of the KJV.
King James believed that Kings had divine rights so the works of Tyndale would not have been excepted had it not been correct, because according to scripture a peasant has the same divine rights as kings.
So it could just as easily be said that the KJV came from the vulgate.
Just think about it, the only Bible authorized by a king puts the king no higher than the rest of us and probably against the Kings will, talk about the divine power of God.
**The cross waits...**
But death doesn’t.
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room at the foot of the cross is a shorthand way of saying as Christians, we are in need of ongoing forgiveness for what we’ve done plus for what we haven’t done that we should have done and that forgiveness is always found at the foot of the cross. All those sins are covered by Christ’s final sacrifice already. As such, our old nature has been judicially dealt with and Christians will not face the second death. Glory to God.
“I think we know them by their deeds.”
+1
“Your point goes to the core of what we are supposed to be. The Apostles did not teach that we are supposed to destroy those who don’t know Jesus Christ as their LORD and Savior. We are supposed to be a light that shines because of the Holy Spirit in us. We are supposed to share The Gospel. “
+1
NO, IT CAME FROM the original languages
doing cad again...caplock disease...
Thank you for posting that. An enlightening read!
NO, IT CAME FROM the original languages
doing cad again...caplock disease...
the all caps at first
doing CAD, we type in caps
so, I am too lazy to retype :)
so, I am too lazy to retype :)
“In fact, there had been published, English-language breviaries for forever.”
Breviaries and Bibles aren’t the same thing. The Council of Toulouse specifically exempted breviaries, even while banning the Old and New Testaments to be possessed by the laity.
“I’ll defend fighting pedophilia over killing women for turning people into newts, any day.”
See, there’s the problem. It’s not an “us vs them” issue. Protestants killing witches in the name of God is just as wrong as Catholics killing heretics in the name of God. Neither act is justified, but if you let your sectarian prejudice get in the way of moral judgement, I guess you can lose sight of that.
The Council of Toulouse was a local council having no international jurisdiction to deal with a local problem, a cult that claimed that Satan was the true god, and the God of Israel was an evil god that destroyed the cosmic balance. A Breviary typically contained nearly every unique verse of the New Testament.
I never knew Gutenberg or Mentelin were burned at the stake.
Me neither. But the original post was talking about those heroic people who sacrificed their lives to make sure that people could read the bible, and those are two people most responsible for that. So what other conclusion can I draw?
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