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Protecting God’s Word From “Bible Christians”
Crisis Magazine ^ | October 3, 2014 | RICHARD BECKER

Posted on 10/03/2014 2:33:43 PM PDT by NYer

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“Stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught,
either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.”
~ St. Paul to the Thessalonians

A former student of mine is thinking of becoming a Catholic, and she had a question for me. “I don’t understand the deuterocanonical books,” she ventured. “If the Catholic faith is supposed to be a fulfillment of the Jewish faith, why do Catholics accept those books and the Jews don’t?” She’d done her homework, and was troubled that the seven books and other writings of the deuterocanon had been preserved only in Greek instead of Hebrew like the rest of the Jewish scriptures—which is part of the reason why they were classified, even by Catholics, as a “second” (deutero) canon.

My student went on. “I’m just struggling because there are a lot of references to those books in Church doctrine, but they aren’t considered inspired Scripture. Why did Luther feel those books needed to be taken out?” she asked. “And why are Protestants so against them?”

The short answer sounds petty and mean, but it’s true nonetheless: Luther jettisoned those “extra” Old Testament books—Tobit, Sirach, 1 and 2 Maccabees, and the like—because they were inconvenient. The Apocrypha (or, “false writings”), as they came to be known, supported pesky Catholic doctrines that Luther and other reformers wanted to suppress—praying for the dead, for instance, and the intercession of the saints. Here’s John Calvin on the subject:

Add to this, that they provide themselves with new supports when they give full authority to the Apocryphal books. Out of the second of the Maccabees they will prove Purgatory and the worship of saints; out of Tobit satisfactions, exorcisms, and what not. From Ecclesiasticus they will borrow not a little. For from whence could they better draw their dregs?

However, the deuterocanonical literature was (and is) prominent in the liturgy and very familiar to that first generation of Protestant converts, so Luther and company couldn’t very well ignore it altogether. Consequently, those seven “apocryphal” books, along with the Greek portions of Esther and Daniel, were relegated to an appendix in early Protestant translations of the Bible.

Eventually, in the nineteenth century sometime, many Protestant Bible publishers starting dropping the appendix altogether, and the modern translations used by most evangelicals today don’t even reference the Apocrypha at all. Thus, the myth is perpetuated that nefarious popes and bishops have gotten away with brazenly foisting a bunch of bogus scripture on the ignorant Catholic masses.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

To begin with, it was Luther and Calvin and the other reformers who did all the foisting. The Old Testament that Christians had been using for 1,500 years had always included the so-called Apocrypha, and there was never a question as to its canonicity. Thus, by selectively editing and streamlining their own versions of the Bible according to their sectarian biases (including, in Luther’s case, both Testaments, Old and New), the reformers engaged in a theological con game. To make matters worse, they covered their tracks by pointing fingers at the Catholic Church for “adding” phony texts to the closed canon of Hebrew Sacred Writ.

In this sense, the reformers were anticipating what I call the Twain-Jefferson approach to canonical revisionism. It involves two simple steps.

The reformers justified their Twain-Jefferson humbug by pointing to the canon of scriptures in use by European Jews during that time, and it did not include those extra Catholic books—case closed! Still unconvinced? Today’s defenders of the reformers’ biblical reshaping will then proceed to throw around historical precedent and references to the first-century Council of Jamnia, but it’s all really smoke and mirrors.

The fact is that the first-century Jewish canon was pretty mutable and there was no universal definitive list of sacred texts. On the other hand, it is indisputable that the version being used by Jesus and the Apostles during that time was the Septuagint—the Greek version of the Hebrew scriptures that included Luther’s rejected apocryphal books. SCORE: Deuterocanon – 1; Twain-Jefferson Revisionism – 0.

But this is all beside the point. It’s like an argument about creationism vs. evolution that gets funneled in the direction of whether dinosaurs could’ve been on board Noah’s Ark. Once you’re arguing about that, you’re no longer arguing about the bigger issue of the historicity of those early chapters in Genesis. The parallel red herring here is arguing over the content of the Christian Old Testament canon instead of considering the nature of authority itself and how it’s supposed to work in the Church, especially with regards to the Bible.

I mean, even if we can settle what the canon should include, we don’t have the autographs (original documents) from any biblical books anyway. While we affirm the Church’s teaching that all Scripture is inspired and teaches “solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into sacred writings” (DV 11), there are no absolutes when it comes to the precise content of the Bible.

Can there be any doubt that this is by God’s design? Without the autographs, we are much less tempted to worship a static book instead of the One it reveals to us. Even so, it’s true that we are still encouraged to venerate the Scriptures, but we worship the incarnate Word—and we ought not confuse the two. John the Baptist said as much when he painstakingly distinguished between himself, the announcer, and the actual Christ he was announcing. The Catechism, quoting St. Bernard, offers a further helpful distinction:

The Christian faith is not a “religion of the book.” Christianity is the religion of the “Word” of God, a word which is “not a written and mute word, but the Word is incarnate and living.”

Anyway, with regards to authority and the canon of Scripture, Mark Shea couldn’t have put it more succinctly than his recent response to a request for a summary of why the deuterocanon should be included in the Bible:

Because the Church in union with Peter, the pillar and ground of the truth (1 Timothy 3:15) granted authority by Christ to loose and bind (Matthew 16:19), says they should be.

Right. The Church says so, and that’s good enough.

For it’s the Church who gives us the Scriptures. It’s the Church who preserves the Scriptures and tells us to turn to them. It’s the Church who bathes us in the Scriptures with the liturgy, day in and day out, constantly watering our souls with God’s Word. Isn’t it a bit bizarre to be challenging the Church with regards to which Scriptures she’s feeding us with? “No, mother,” the infant cries, “not breast milk! I want Ovaltine! Better yet, how about some Sprite!”

Think of it this way. My daughter Margaret and I share an intense devotion to Betty Smith’s remarkable novel, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. It’s a bittersweet family tale of impoverishment, tragedy, and perseverance, and we often remark how curious it is that Smith’s epic story receives so little attention.

I was rooting around the sale shelf at the public library one day, and I happened upon a paperback with the name “Betty Smith” on the spine. I took a closer look: Joy in the Morning, a 1963 novel of romance and the struggles of newlyweds, and it was indeed by the same Smith of Tree fame. I snatched it up for Meg.

The other day, Meg thanked me for the book, and asked me to be on the lookout for others by Smith. “It wasn’t nearly as good as Tree,” she said, “and I don’t expect any of her others to be as good. But I want to read everything she wrote because Tree was so wonderful.”

See, she wants to get to know Betty Smith because of what she encountered in A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. And all we have are her books and other writings; Betty Smith herself is gone.

But Jesus isn’t like that. We have the book, yes, but we have more. We still have the Word himself.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: apocrypha; bible; calvin; christians; herewegoagain; luther
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To: dsc
Why do you argue in such a tendentious fashion?

It suits my purpose.


My meaning was perfectly clear.

And so is mine.

881 posted on 10/07/2014 7:15:36 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear

Right after this reply!


882 posted on 10/07/2014 7:16:01 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor
The ark was found by Ron Wyatt, as were the real Mt. Sinai, and the Chariots of the Egyptians that perished when the Red sea poured in over them.

Sure they were...

883 posted on 10/07/2014 7:17:33 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums

“Y’all sure rely on them when you need to prove Jews “prayed for the dead” and gather up what you can to support Purgatory.”

And you think that is the same thing? Let me help you understand how they are NOT the same thing. II Maccabees, as an inspired book (it doesn’t matter if you believe it), or even as an uninspired book, recorded what Jews believed and it in chapter 12. That’s it. We’re not relying on them. It’s just there. And it was all written before the time of Christ on earth.

When it comes to the canon, that was all AFTER Christ came. No Jew had any authority to decide anything.

“It reminds me of the Martin Luther fixation so often displayed here. One day you love him and quote him and the next he is despised and the blame for all that is wrong in the world today. Go figure!”

No. Again, when Luther gets something right (i.e. agrees with historic, orthodox Christianity) we cite him because it puts an onus on his fellow Protestants to explain why they believe him on some doctrines but not others. With Jews and the canon it is entirely different. We don’t look to any Jew after Jesus’ time to define anything for us in regard to Christian belief or practice. We don’t look to Luther to define Christian belief or practice either.


884 posted on 10/07/2014 7:22:51 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: dsc
I’ve been doing this a long time, and both insults and hatred roll off me like water off a duck’s back.

My intent was clear to all whose hearts are not drenched in Satanic malice.

885 posted on 10/07/2014 7:23:35 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: redleghunter

“I understand. I left you speechless.”

No, as I said, “His words are authoritative but do not agree with your apparent misunderstanding. Your mistake is a common enough one.”


886 posted on 10/07/2014 7:23:46 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: BlueDragon

Someone in need of a new nappy?


887 posted on 10/07/2014 7:24:32 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor
"Now, in order that the glory and credit go to the Lord, I feel it my duty to make it known that it was God who led me there. Not my wisdom or the wisdom of others. If different men made each discovery, Noah's Ark, the Red Sea crossing site with the chariot parts, the real Mt. Sinai, and the Ark of the Covenant, people could say they were just lucky or really did their research. But one person could not find all these things without divine leading. "


And the many teams since these discoveries has verified and backed up every one of them; right?

888 posted on 10/07/2014 7:30:03 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear

889 posted on 10/07/2014 7:32:27 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Springfield Reformer; BlueDragon; boatbums; daniel1212
Your authority (Protestant, and therefore already suspect) simply points out that the extant copies are no earlier than 4c and of Christian origin. But that does not prove the absence of the Deuterocanon in the earlier Septuagint.

The Deuterocanons were known to Sts. Justine Martyr, Hippolytus and Irenaeus, and to Origen, who counted them among other canonical books. See details in The canon of the Old Testament in the Church of the first three centuries

I suspect all this "scholarship" is just another Protestant attempt to rewrite history.

890 posted on 10/07/2014 7:43:54 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: boatbums

That the composition of the Septuagint varied in the early copies does not prove anything about its overall content. In my previous post I cite reasons to believe that proto-nicean Fathers knew of the deteurocanonical books and often considered them equally inspired.

That st. Paul was a Jew also proves nothing: the Septuagint was created for the purposes of Jews. That he wrote in beautiful Greek shows that he would have no aversion to the use of Greek, even if he personally did not need a Greek translation.

The fact remains that St. Paul did not find it necessary to qualify his inspired remark about “all scripture” in any way, yet surely he was familiar of the existence of the Septuagint.


891 posted on 10/07/2014 7:49:49 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: editor-surveyor

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


892 posted on 10/07/2014 7:53:01 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: BlueDragon

“Your own complaints about forum moderation came close on the heels of one particular individual being warned...and the moderator (as it appeared to me) telegraphing a “enough is enough” sort of thing.”

I don’t believe I saw that.

“All of which made me it seem to me the raising of “the religion moderator is unfair to Catholics” meme was partially in attempt to manipulate the babysitter, uh, I mean forum moderator.”

Manipulate, as opposed to persuade. Your choice of the one word over the other betrays much.

“It seems you may have found a few of those previously non-existent scintillas.”

Nope.

“I see progress!”

The fang and claw protestants see much that does not exist.


893 posted on 10/07/2014 7:54:50 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: boatbums; BlueDragon; Springfield Reformer; daniel1212
what about the OTHER eight books besides the seven RCs now claim are Scripture?

You are confusing divine inspiration with canonicity. St. Paul named a certain body of literature inspired, and he said "all", so "all", literally, that was accessible to Jewish youth like Timothy is inspired. The question of canon is, of course the business of the Church and she, lead by the Holy Ghost, defined the Canon to be what it is. There is much outside of the Canon of Scripture that is inspired; someone here mentioned 1 Esdra, for example, and I can point to the works of the medieval saints as well. The Holy Ghost leads the Church today and forever, and so the volume of inspired Catholic works continues even today.

894 posted on 10/07/2014 7:55:58 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: BlueDragon
which English language translation is the "inspired" one?

All accurate translations are inspired product of the Holy Church, even though variations may be found in them. Protestant obfuscatory passages are generally not, even though the Protestant translations in part contain correct text that approximates the original.

895 posted on 10/07/2014 7:59:34 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: CynicalBear

In Genesis 3:15 they vary in the pronoun, yet the meaning is correct either way, for Neither Jesus nor His blessed mother crushed the Serpent literally, yet both are connected to the victory: Mary as Christ’s mother and Christ - directly. Note that Moses put Mary in the context of the Protoevangelium even though the pronoun should be masculine.


896 posted on 10/07/2014 8:04:27 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: editor-surveyor
The entire New Testament was first written in Hebrew, because the apostles were not literate in Greek

That is simply your fantasy that has nothing to do with history, nor with the quality of Paul's prose.

897 posted on 10/07/2014 8:07:37 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Thank you. I wish I had your patience.


898 posted on 10/07/2014 8:09:30 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: editor-surveyor
All you have is conjecture, but no proof whatsoever for these claims. Whether the Apostles spoke Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek, the books of the New Testament were written in Greek - and we DO have proof - and used the Greek name for Jesus, Iēsous. The English spelling for Iēsous is “Jesus”. Again, you can call Him what you will, but those of us who know Him as Jesus use his name to praise Him - it STILL means "the LORD who saves" and "the salvation of the Lord". I have no discomfort over it nor need to repent. Perhaps the repentance is for those who would condemn others for something they are not guilty of doing. From http://christianity.about.com/od/faqhelpdesk/f/jesusoryeshua.htm>:

    In German, our English word for book is "buch." In Spanish, it becomes a "libro;" in French, a "livre." The language changes, but the object itself does not. In the same way, we can refer to Jesus as “Jesus,” “Yeshua,” or “YehSou” (Cantonese), without changing His nature. In any language, His name means “the Lord is Salvation.”

    Those who argue and insist we call Jesus by his correct name, Yeshua, are concerning themselves with trivial, non-essential matters. English speakers call him Jesus, with a "J" that sounds like "gee." Portuguese speakers call him Jesus, but with a "J" that sounds like "sjeh," and Spanish speakers call him Jesus, with a "J" that sounds like "hey." Which one of these pronunciations is the correct one? All of them, of course, in their own language.

    The Bible doesn't give preeminence to one language (or translation) over another. We are not commanded to call upon the name of the Lord in Hebrew only. Acts 2:21 says, "But everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." God knows who calls upon his name, whether they do so in English, Portuguese, Spanish, or Hebrew. He is still the same Lord and Savior.


899 posted on 10/07/2014 8:12:27 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: annalex
>>Neither Jesus nor His blessed mother crushed the Serpent literally,<<

Jesus will totally crush Satan when He returns. Mary has no part in that.

>>Note that Moses put Mary in the context of the Protoevangelium even though the pronoun should be masculine.<<

No he didn't and the pronoun is masculine because it is referencing Jesus alone. Including Mary is a corruption by the Catholic Church to bolster the apostacy of Mariology.

900 posted on 10/07/2014 8:15:25 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus in)
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