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Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"
Charisma News ^ | 9/5/2014 | Jennifer LeClaire

Posted on 09/11/2014 11:19:06 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

Pope Francis has been a breath of fresh air for many Catholics seeking greater liberty and a growing concern for conservative Christians who take issue with his comments about homosexuality and other cultural issues.

But the pontiff's latest statement is sparking an uproar from believers around the world. Pope Francis sent a tweet Tuesday that absolutely violates the truth of Scripture:

"The Christian who does not feel that the Virgin Mary is his or her mother is an orphan," Pope Francis tweeted.

As of the time I wrote this column it had been retweeted about 4,000 times and many of the responses were in appropriately unkind. It's not appropriate to attack the pope for his beliefs. It's more appropriate to share the truth...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Ecumenism; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; bigotry; catholic; mary; pope; popefrancis
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To: Iscool
I didn't know Mary...I have no idea how much Jesus loved his mother...He never said...
From today's First Reading, 1 Cor 12:31-13:13: "So faith, hope, love remain, these three; but the greatest of these is love." Does this give insight as to how much Jesus loved his mother?
941 posted on 09/17/2014 7:35:17 AM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: Elsie
Just the ABSOLUTE necessity to VENERATE her and PRAY to her and ADORE her and LOVE her; right? If you DISHONOR her; she'll get snippy and not LEAD you to her Son.
As Catholics, we are not required to pray the rosary; it is a discipline, an aid, a devotional of the faith. And Catholics do not adore [worship] Mary, only Jesus. We do venerate her (regard her with great respect; she's the mother of Jesus, hence God). And love her? Of course! Read 1 Cor 12:31-13:13. And since Mary is without sin, she's not capable of being "snippy." However, much of your commentary is not only snippy, but silly, disjointed, rushed, hence confusing. I'm not always certain where you're coming from in that regard.
942 posted on 09/17/2014 8:01:27 AM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: metmom

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. There are many, many more Christians worldwide that venerate Mary than those than do not. All Catholics, all Orthodox; so the two largest Christian groups in the world hold the Blessed Mother in the highest regard, while protestants belittle her role in Christianity. And I’ve said it before, it’s a shame when Muslims have a higher regard for Mary than the vast majority of protestants. Now that is sad and despicable.


943 posted on 09/17/2014 8:55:51 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: mlizzy
From today's First Reading, 1 Cor 12:31-13:13: "So faith, hope, love remain, these three; but the greatest of these is love." Does this give insight as to how much Jesus loved his mother?

Nope, not at all...I doubt that Jesus loved his mother any more than I loved my mother...

And maybe less...Jesus didn't put much stock in the flesh...`

Here's what Jesus knew...Jesus knew that the flesh was corrupt...Even his mother's flesh...He knew that one day that flesh would drop off and rot...Even his mother...

And thats how we know that Mary wasn't perfect...Her flesh was corrupted...And we know that because her corrupt body aged...She was not born perfect...Part of original sin is aging...Flesh deteriorating...it deteriorates because of the corrupted blood...That's why flesh and blood can not inherit the kingdom...

Jesus knew his mother was not her flesh...Jesus' real mother was inside the flesh...The flesh was just a shell...Jesus knew the real Mary was the spirit of Mary...

You Catholics are so fixated on your many perceptions of what Mary's flesh looks like...Truth is, if any of you ever see Mary in heaven you won't recognize her...

Luk 11:27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. Luk 11:28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

That certain woman made the same error the Catholic religion makes...This woman was enamored over the flesh of Mary...The rotting flesh...

Luk 8:20 And it was told him by certain which said, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to see thee.
Luk 8:21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.

And every one of those brethren in front of Jesus were just corpses...Rotting flesh...Jesus wasn't looking at the flesh...Jesus was looking at and referring to the souls and spirits of those in front of him...'Those' are his brethren and mothers and fathers, NoT the flesh of Mary...

Outside of the flesh, Jesus doesn't have a mother...That's why Jesus never called Mary mother...Jesus hasn't been in the 'flesh' for 2000 years...Go ahead and ask Jesus who his mother is...

944 posted on 09/17/2014 10:46:42 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: NKP_Vet
And I’ve said it before, it’s a shame when Muslims have a higher regard for Mary than the vast majority of protestants. Now that is sad and despicable.

Now that little 'gem' ought to tell you something...

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. There are many, many more Christians worldwide that venerate Mary than those than do not. All Catholics, all Orthodox; so the two largest Christian groups in the world hold the Blessed Mother in the highest regard, while protestants belittle her role in Christianity.

What we belittle are the fables about Mary that your religion constructed...

I would hesitate to call any one Christian who bows to and prays to Mary...Biblically those people are willingly out of the will of God...

945 posted on 09/17/2014 10:52:33 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Heart-Rest; CynicalBear

>> “My two posts about the “Sanctuary” (737, 740) were in response to editor-surveyor’s post where he basically said that you cannot encounter Jesus Christ in a Chapel made by human hands.” <<

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Again, I have to differ.

The churches are at this point, the least likely place to encounter our savior.

They are exactly what they have been described to be by Yeshua in his Revelatiion: A harlot and her daughters.

We have been called out from them.
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946 posted on 09/17/2014 11:13:31 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Iscool
Nope, not at all...I doubt that Jesus loved his mother any more than I loved my mother...And maybe less...Jesus knew that the flesh was corrupt...He knew that one day that flesh [of Mary's] would drop off and rot...
::shudders::
947 posted on 09/17/2014 11:30:01 AM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: MDLION
Do you really think God could incarnate in the womb of a sinful creature?

Why not?

How would that creature not be annihilated? In the Old Testament, when those who weren’t priests touched the Ark of the Covenant, they would fall over dead, fallen, unredeemed human beings were so unworthy at that time.

So then anyone whom Jesus touched would be annihilated. How did He go through His entire life not touching a single person?

Oh, wait. He didn't.......

And why were they healed instead of annihilated?

948 posted on 09/17/2014 11:31:21 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: NKP_Vet; metmom
>>And I’ve said it before, it’s a shame when Muslims have a higher regard for Mary than the vast majority of protestants.<<

The shame is that according to the Catholic Church Muslims and Catholics serve the same god.

949 posted on 09/17/2014 11:39:04 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: MDLION; mdmathis6

>> “Do you really think God could incarnate in the womb of a sinful creature?” <<

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Yes, he definitely did so!

He had no choice, since every human that had ever been born had been born with the sin nature of Adam.

If you do not believe that, you call him a liar.
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950 posted on 09/17/2014 11:43:11 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Iscool

As usual you are outnumbered. Drastically. By the same Christians who have been honoring and venerating Mary for the last 2,000 years. You lose. Accept your loss. Resistance is futile.


951 posted on 09/17/2014 11:54:16 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: CynicalBear

Could it be the God of Abraham? The same ones Jews worship?


952 posted on 09/17/2014 11:55:37 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Anyone who thinks the Muslims serve the God of Abraham is deluded at best.


953 posted on 09/17/2014 12:06:01 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: NKP_Vet; Iscool
As usual you are outnumbered. Drastically. By the same Christians who have been honoring and venerating Mary for the last 2,000 years. You lose. Accept your loss.

Broad is the path and wide is the road that leads to destruction and many there are that find it.

Might doesn't make right.

Resistance is futile.

No, it's not. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

954 posted on 09/17/2014 2:33:19 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; NKP_Vet; Iscool

>> “Resistance is futile.”

>> “No, it’s not. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.” <<

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AMEN!

Satan adores Maryolatry.


955 posted on 09/17/2014 3:22:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: NKP_Vet; CynicalBear
>> “Could it be the God of Abraham? The same ones Jews worship?” <<

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Freudian slip?

Jews do not worship multiple gods like catholics do.

And Allah is a dedicated servant of Satan.

956 posted on 09/17/2014 3:27:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: JPX2011; metmom
And what of the evangelical leaders who have been invited and welcomed to the Vatican? I guess Billy Graham isn't amongst the true, born again believers.

Various Protestant and Catholic posters have made that charge from time to time. I'd be glad to ping you to them the next time one is posted.

957 posted on 09/17/2014 4:04:13 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy; metmom; JPX2011
And what of the evangelical leaders who have been invited and welcomed to the Vatican? I guess Billy Graham isn't amongst the true, born again believers.

This Pope only meets with Evangelical heavyweights.

Osteen meets with Pope Francis at Vatican </sarc>

958 posted on 09/17/2014 4:15:59 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: editor-surveyor
Satan adores Maryolatry
Yes, I agree. He also loves those who disrespect Mary. Because he hates her himself.
959 posted on 09/17/2014 4:29:10 PM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: NKP_Vet

And I’ve said it before, it’s a shame when Muslims have a higher regard for Mary than the vast majority of protestants. Now that is sad and despicable.


When some Catholics have a higher regard for Mary than they have for Jesus THAT is sad and despicable.


960 posted on 09/17/2014 4:36:11 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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