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Protestants: It's time to come back
http://littlecatholicbubble.blogspot.com ^ | September 9, 2011 | Leila Miller

Posted on 07/14/2014 9:20:18 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

To my Protestant brothers and sisters:

It's time to come back to Mother Church. We want you, we need you, we love you.

I've spent a lot of time in dialogue with activist atheists recently, and the direction we are going is not pretty. We are witnessing a rapid cultural decline into amorality.

Satan seeks the ruin of souls through the destruction of marriage and family, and the quickest route to his goal is the profanation of sex. The truth and meaning of human sexuality is our era's cultural fault line, and unfortunately, Protestant denominations have been tumbling into its widening crevace at an alarming pace.

The first cracks denying the sacred nature of human sexuality began mere decades ago with the first tentative acceptance of contraception by a Christian church (the Anglicans). After 1,900+ years of unbroken Christian teaching on the immorality of contraception (including 400+ years of unbroken Protestant teaching), a moral evil was suddenly declared good. The entirety of Protestantism, although horrified at first, soon followed suit.

"Woe to those who call evil good" -- Isaiah 5:20

Then came other issues -- sterilization, masturbation, abortion, fornication and cohabiting, homosexual activity and homosexual "marriage". One by one, Protestant communities have broken from Christian teaching and sided with the secular culture. Many Protestant communities do not accept all the aforementioned evils as good, of course, and some are making a valiant attempt to fight one or more of them. However, there is no guarantee that those denominations won't eventually accept other sexual sins in the same way they accepted contraception, sterilization and masturbation. A majority vote by church leaders could launch an unsuspecting Protestant from the Spirit of the Gospel right into the spirit of the age -- the Planned Parenthood age.

Look where you are standing. Unless you stand with the Catholic Church, you may already have one foot off the cliff.

How to guarantee that you'll stand firmly on the ground of moral Truth? Come back home to the Catholic Church.

For over two thousand years:

The Catholic Church has never taught that contraception is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that sterilization is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that masturbation is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that abortion is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that fornication is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that homosexual activity is a moral good, and she never will.

The moral teachings of the Church have never changed, and they never will.

Human sexuality is transcendent, life-giving and sacred, and the Catholic Church will teach that Truth till the last day.

Dear Protestant, a church with a changing morality is a church built on shifting sand. If you want to build your life and eternity on something solid, build it on the Rock of Peter. Don't be carried about by every wind of social change; come back to the Catholic Church and stand strong with us -- one united Body as Jesus intended.

America may not survive many more generations at the rate we are going, but the Church and her teachings will stand regardless, speaking the same Truths, undisturbed, till the end of time. Believe me, it's a really nice place to be in a storm. Extremely peaceful.

So, come on. You'll like it here, living in peace and joy and certainty. It's your rightful home anyway.

Come back to Holy Mother Church. It really is time.


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To: DManA

“You are obviously so full of hate you should refrain from posting.”

And you don’t think you come across as full of something as well?


81 posted on 07/14/2014 10:57:15 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: NKP_Vet

Having protestant daughters observing the pope’s calendar(heck the whole world does this), observing the pope’s sabbath(Jews have a pope appointed sabbath, too) and observing the pope’s holy days of december 25 and easter just not enough for their mother..

Give a little, and she wants more.. sound like politicians we know...

That is an awful lot adopted by mother that isn’t sola scripura... it’s more like sola popa....
(Or however the greco roman latin churches say it)

In English, the word for all that is counterfeit...

I think it is called pseudo in the greco roman latin-
Lies, deception, falsehoods according to my concordance...

A handy dictionary of synonyms has pseudo’s synonyms as counterfeit, spurious, bogus, fake, sham, phony..

Scripture warned us pseudo’s would come...

december 25 and easter alone are substitutes for His real birth day(found with His Calendar and Scripture) and His resurrection day (scripture tells us feast of first fruits, the 16th day of His first month)

some Jews observed that ‘16th’ on a pope gregory woden’s day and some observed it a month later on a pope gregory Friya’s day..
Now, one was wrong, but the template used was accurate according to scripture- and neither hit the mother’s friday-sunday template...

Protestants haven’t proved all things yet... they still rely on their mother and early church fathers (who were birthed from the mother) for way too much that just isnt scriptural.. goes to the very heart of worship life...

The mother will never be happy till she has fully compliant daughters..

disown her..
Lies and pseudos never lead to the genuine Way, Truth or Life.

They lead to copies and ‘in place of’s’ and ‘instead of’s’..-
And my concordance calls that stuff ‘Anti’....

Unity with ‘anti’s’ wasn’t comfortable for me... but each believer has their own life to live and journey to take...

Some want to be close to mother...


82 posted on 07/14/2014 10:57:35 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: GeronL

“Nothing in the Bible says we should pray to the Saints or Mary.”

Nothing in the Bible says we should look only to the Bible for all truths.

Notice that?


83 posted on 07/14/2014 10:58:36 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: metmom

Or we can talk about abortion...........

“Among the religious institutions of national influence, the Catholic Church stood alone in protesting the immediate evil and long-term implications of Roe v. Wade . Although it is largely forgotten today, evangelical Protestantism was in support of Roe v. Wade”.

http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2007/01/thirty-three-years-after-roe-v


84 posted on 07/14/2014 11:02:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Gumdrop
>>What is the Protestant Church? Seriously - what is the definition of ‘the Protestant Church’?<<

Did you not see the question mark in my statement regarding leaving the Protestant church to join a church with greater error? The topic of this thread is leaving the Protestant church as Catholics see it and join the Catholic Church. To Catholics anyone who isn’t a Catholic is a Protestant.

85 posted on 07/14/2014 11:05:29 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: NKP_Vet

Your ignorance of the level of contempt you are displaying is all the evidence anyone needs to reject your exhortation to return to the plantation.


86 posted on 07/14/2014 11:07:32 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: metmom; Salvation
She has already excommunicated herself.

Nonsense.

Well, Salvation, the FReeper, has already admitted to lying--and being proud of that--to fellow believers. I wouldn't take anything (s)he says seriously.

87 posted on 07/14/2014 11:09:45 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Talisker

Prove me wrong...........

“Among the religious institutions of national influence, the Catholic Church stood alone in protesting the immediate evil and long-term implications of Roe v. Wade . Although it is largely forgotten today, evangelical Protestantism was in support of Roe v. Wade”.

http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2007/01/thirty-three-years-after-roe-v


88 posted on 07/14/2014 11:10:26 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Talisker; NKP_Vet

“Your ignorance of the level of contempt you are displaying is all the evidence anyone needs to reject your exhortation to return to the plantation.”

Ever notice how many anti-Catholics act like emotional Middle School girls (albeit, sometimes, with a greater vocabulary)?


90 posted on 07/14/2014 11:11:20 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: ShadowAce

“..says the admitted liar.”

Ohhhh, when did that happen? I ask because I got two or three anti-Catholics to admit they were lying in the last couple of years. My profile page has a link to one such thread. I am amazed by how anti-Catholics seem completely free to lie as long as they’re lying against Catholics. It’s as if they have no conscience at all in regard to dishonesty as long as they are lying about Catholics!


91 posted on 07/14/2014 11:14:56 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998; metmom

Sorry, forgot to ping you to 91.


92 posted on 07/14/2014 11:15:38 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
Again, you don’t seem to understand the obvious. Christ founded the Church. You can’t separate them.

No, Christ founded the Church of those who had been born-again, NOT the catholic church.
93 posted on 07/14/2014 11:17:08 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: NKP_Vet

I can worship Jesus just fine inside the (protestant) Church I attend rather than going through a Catholic priest, thank you!


94 posted on 07/14/2014 11:17:48 AM PDT by JSDude1
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To: GeronL
>>Sounds like some kind of cult the way they are always going on about “Mother Church” and stuff.<<

If you look up the ways to tell if something is a cult you will be amazed at how many of them apply to the Catholic Church. It most certainly is cult like but I would say they are more paganism then cult. The amount of pagan customs, practices, beliefs, vestments etc. they have adopted, in many instances admitted by the RCC, certainly make them more a pagan religion than a Christian religion.

95 posted on 07/14/2014 11:18:24 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: NKP_Vet

A simple answer:
No.
I’ll worship Jesus without a giant theocratic corporation controlling me, thank you very much. I have no use for popes and cardinals and bishops and priests. I have Jesus and that’s all I need.


96 posted on 07/14/2014 11:18:41 AM PDT by EricT. (Everything not forbidden is compulsory.)
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To: vladimir998
Your premise can only be the following: “Gee, we all know Catholics make stuff up so when they cite St. Paul on tradition they must assume he meant that it was okay to make up stuff and pass it off as sacred tradition.” Isn’t that what your suggesting?

I'm suggesting that you open yourselves up to that accusation when you justify every tradition that's come down over the last 2000 years by claiming that Paul proactively okayed it with his statement regarding traditions that had been established up to that point.

By the way, I don't have any problem with new traditions developing, as long as they don't contradict scripture (which is, incidentally, the actual meaning of sola scriptura, in contrast to the way it tends to be misportrayed in these debates).

97 posted on 07/14/2014 11:22:17 AM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: EricT.

Si Senor, “Me and Jesus got us a good thing goin’, we don’t need no stinkin’ church”.


98 posted on 07/14/2014 11:22:40 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: SoConPubbie

You are SO wrong, SoConPubbie. The whole point is, without the ship, you will drown, as we are seeing daily with the protestants. All sliding down on moral issues, one after the other. Am currently reading a book about life in a European city, where the bottom of the moral bucket is pretty black: casual sex including legal prostitution, euthanasia making elderly a rare sight, dads usually unknown, much of the population stoned, and nobody has a clue why they are so poor.


99 posted on 07/14/2014 11:23:12 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: sr4402

They’re not worshiping her; they’re asking her to put in a good word for them with her Son.


100 posted on 07/14/2014 11:24:19 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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