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Posted on 07/14/2014 9:20:18 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
To my Protestant brothers and sisters:
It's time to come back to Mother Church. We want you, we need you, we love you.
I've spent a lot of time in dialogue with activist atheists recently, and the direction we are going is not pretty. We are witnessing a rapid cultural decline into amorality.
Satan seeks the ruin of souls through the destruction of marriage and family, and the quickest route to his goal is the profanation of sex. The truth and meaning of human sexuality is our era's cultural fault line, and unfortunately, Protestant denominations have been tumbling into its widening crevace at an alarming pace.
The first cracks denying the sacred nature of human sexuality began mere decades ago with the first tentative acceptance of contraception by a Christian church (the Anglicans). After 1,900+ years of unbroken Christian teaching on the immorality of contraception (including 400+ years of unbroken Protestant teaching), a moral evil was suddenly declared good. The entirety of Protestantism, although horrified at first, soon followed suit.
"Woe to those who call evil good" -- Isaiah 5:20
Then came other issues -- sterilization, masturbation, abortion, fornication and cohabiting, homosexual activity and homosexual "marriage". One by one, Protestant communities have broken from Christian teaching and sided with the secular culture. Many Protestant communities do not accept all the aforementioned evils as good, of course, and some are making a valiant attempt to fight one or more of them. However, there is no guarantee that those denominations won't eventually accept other sexual sins in the same way they accepted contraception, sterilization and masturbation. A majority vote by church leaders could launch an unsuspecting Protestant from the Spirit of the Gospel right into the spirit of the age -- the Planned Parenthood age.
Look where you are standing. Unless you stand with the Catholic Church, you may already have one foot off the cliff.
How to guarantee that you'll stand firmly on the ground of moral Truth? Come back home to the Catholic Church.
For over two thousand years:
The Catholic Church has never taught that contraception is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that sterilization is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that masturbation is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that abortion is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that fornication is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that homosexual activity is a moral good, and she never will.
The moral teachings of the Church have never changed, and they never will.
Human sexuality is transcendent, life-giving and sacred, and the Catholic Church will teach that Truth till the last day.
Dear Protestant, a church with a changing morality is a church built on shifting sand. If you want to build your life and eternity on something solid, build it on the Rock of Peter. Don't be carried about by every wind of social change; come back to the Catholic Church and stand strong with us -- one united Body as Jesus intended.
America may not survive many more generations at the rate we are going, but the Church and her teachings will stand regardless, speaking the same Truths, undisturbed, till the end of time. Believe me, it's a really nice place to be in a storm. Extremely peaceful.
So, come on. You'll like it here, living in peace and joy and certainty. It's your rightful home anyway.
Come back to Holy Mother Church. It really is time.
That sir, is the statement of a person who has no concept or familiarity of what the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is or causes. In that regard I would get down on my knees and beg for the Holy Spirit to enlighten if I were you.
Too late.
I'm sorry I don't fall into logical fallacy of false dichotomy.
Except the Cathars and Albigensians were nonviolent. Which of course you know. So you also know that your comparison of them with murderous Muslims is a deliberate lie.
An excellent comparison, however, is with the Christians who are being slaughtered by the Muslims because they exist, or the Jews who are receiving rockets everyday because they exist. That's exactly why the Church murdered the Cathars - because they existed.
Why lie? Why defend the indefensible? Why not simply say that the Church rejects Cathars teachings, but their slaughter was wrong even for the time. Something done by perverts in the Church for their own power, and not reflecting the teachings of the Church, let alone the teachings of Christ. Why continue to try to defend horror with lies? Do you think Christ wants that? If not, then who do you really serve?
1 John 1:8-10 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
The rest of us mere mortals have to deal with sin and temptation.
You mean like Ted Kennedy and Chavez, who *repented* at the end and got their Catholic church blessed funerals?
I stopped reading at this point since it is clear you are not giving legitimate numbers.
Dr. David Jeremiah used to throw around the number of 5 million people killed by the Inquisition. I broke the numbers down for him and asked him the two questions I will ask you: Where are all the bodies buried, and who buried them?
Any literate Christian person who has access to a Bible is making a mistake if they spend time reading it.
LOL, it was NOT a typo!
You're partly right...I am guilty based on God's Word. I sin daily in some form or fashion. It is a reminder that no matter how good I try to be, I fall short of the glory of God. However, the Good News is, I am completely forgiven based belief in Christ as noted in God's Word.
The "bill" as you more correctly call it that you may realize, "is paid in full".
Colossians 2:13-14
When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions,
14having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
If you look at a Greek interlinear the english "having canceled" is "having blotted out" in the Greek. It means to completely wipe away or obliterate.
The Greek translates the decrees against us as "handwriting in the decrees". The word for handrwriting indicates a legal note, or bond. In the Mosaic law it shows men to be chargeable with offences for which they must pay the penalty.
The verb tense in "He has taken" is in the perfect form. It is a completed action. It's done.
In Roman times a freed prisoner would have a paper with him that showed his crimes had been paid for in case the authorities questioned him.
What is this telling us? The sins/crimes we were guilty of, Christ has completely blotted these out and has nailed them to the cross. There is nothing else that can be done for our sins.
Is it a license to sin? No, sir. Just as Paul noted in Romans 6. Need to read the whole chapter to understand it. Not going to post it as I think we have resources to access it.
Actually it is the statement of a person that understands that every protestant is his or her own pope.
Projecting is an interesting thing, is it not?
The only reason people make blanket statements like that about other people’s motives is because that’s what they’d do in their place.
And Catholicism is no better. I’ve spent a lifetime listening to Catholic family and co-workers treat sin lightly. All they have to do is make sure they go to confession Saturday. Convince the priest you’re sincere, say a few Hail Mary’s and Our Father’s and maybe if you were really bad, a trip around the rosary, and you’re good to go.
Still waiting for answers to Martin Luther’s 95 points of concern, without circular reasoning.
So if man looses his salvation who is to blame? And if man accepts salvation who gets the credit?
Wikipedia is too hard to use? I mean, there are one or two other sources, but i figured you might recognize that one. And you want to know where thousand year old burned bodies are buried in France? How about under the bodies of all the dead from all the European wars from the last thousand years? Or are you saying the Albigensian Crusade never happened?
You’re dismissed.
Yet they don’t see the irony.
Unlike Catholics, who cannot think for themselves because they have to obey the Pope and let him do their thinking for them. Unless, of course, its one of those times they have to think for themselves, especially one of those times when they have to disagree with the Pope, in the name of following the Church which is distinguished by obedience to the Pope. Anyway, people who don't have a Pope just don't get it. The Pope is not a toy. If you have a Pope it means living a life of strict obedience to the idea of constantly having to follow the teachings of the Pope that you agree with, which Protestants cannot even begin to comprehend, since they just decide everything for themselves and wouldn't know spiritual discipline if it burned them at the stake.
I seriously doubt either of them repented at the end.
I also suspect they ultimately came to regret that decision.
The Catholic church, though founded by Jesus Christ, is operated by human beings, some of whom have sold their souls for earthly rewards.
Yeah it is tough to answer questions when the answers prove you wrong.
Let me know when you write something intelligent enough to be worth reading.
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