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Christianity and Islam: A Common Heritage?
Crisis Magazine ^ | 7/1/14 | William Kilpatrick

Posted on 07/01/2014 6:45:13 AM PDT by BlatherNaut

Recently two prominent American bishops joined two leading Shiite Muslim scholars in Iran in issuing a statement on weapons of mass destruction. According to the statement, “Christianity and Islam cherish a common heritage that emphasizes, above all, love and respect for the life dignity, and welfare of all members of the human community.” It went on to say that “Catholicism and Shia Islam hold a common commitment to peaceful coexistence and mutual respect,” and concluded with a commitment to “our mutual intention to engage in sustained dialogue based on our shared values.”

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KEYWORDS: christianity; islam
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To: Daveinyork

“ONE WAY....JESUS”

His sheep hear His voice. Don’t ask me. Read the Scriptures and decide for yourself.


41 posted on 07/01/2014 7:41:11 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

AMEN!


42 posted on 07/01/2014 7:41:49 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: elcid1970
In the middle east, a brightly shining 'star' led the WISE men to Jesus. Thus the beginning of Christianity.

After the shining 'star' crashed to the ground, the Not So Wise Men picked up the pieces and worshipped them.


43 posted on 07/01/2014 7:59:43 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Daveinyork

Smart ass. You know what I’m talking about, and you are trying to deny it.
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I think your comment is that of a genuine devil’s advocate. And like most devil’s advocates, you are ignorant to the side you are working for.


44 posted on 07/01/2014 8:08:11 AM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: UCANSEE2

THE holiest place in Islam.......Ewwww!


45 posted on 07/01/2014 8:09:24 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: piusv
But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind.

- Lumen Gentium 16, Dogmatic Constitution promulgated by Paul VI, 1964 (Vatican II).

46 posted on 07/01/2014 8:10:08 AM PDT by piusv
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To: mbarker12474
In the entire history of Christianity, can you cite more than, say, 10,000 examples Christian-sanctioned and Christian-motivated butcherings, slaughters, killings, etc.? And of these, how many of the victims were innocents, and not participants themselves in military takeovers or occupation of Christian lands, buildings, states?

Perhaps you should read MARTYRS MIRROR and FOXES BOOK OF MARTYRS about the Inquisition. Many more than 10,000 murders. Although the killings were perpetrated by Catholics, not Christians.

47 posted on 07/01/2014 8:19:43 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: BlatherNaut

It’s one thing to affirm the common humanity shared by Christians and Muslims; it’s another thing altogether to assert that they share a common belief system—as in “Living Our Faith Together.””

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So true. These animals share no beliefs that are God-inspired.


48 posted on 07/01/2014 8:53:52 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: BykrBayb

Well said!


49 posted on 07/01/2014 8:55:45 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: BlatherNaut
...a commitment to “our mutual intention to engage in sustained dialogue based on our shared values.”  photo mollah_zps88535f1a.jpg They need to rethink that statement, the church has enough problems in that area.
50 posted on 07/01/2014 8:56:22 AM PDT by RetSignman (MODERATE Islamist are not as extreme, they stop cutting just before the jugular vein.)
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To: mbarker12474

Your logic fails to explain why American Moslems are currently joining AQ.


51 posted on 07/01/2014 8:58:00 AM PDT by Pecos (Kakocracy - killing the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: piusv
But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind.

- Lumen Gentium 16, Dogmatic Constitution promulgated by Paul VI, 1964 (Vatican II).

It is clear that Brother Paul is
vincibly ignorant.

It is clear from YHvH's WORD
Abraham had only one son, Isaac.

Abram fathered a child with a foreigner HaGar.

It was in defiance of YHvH's commandment.

Islam an Abrahamic religion ?

Descendants of Abraham ?

Clearly the creator of the universe,
YHvH does not choose them !

Descendants of Abraham?

YHvH does not think so, He repudiates them !

YHvH states that Isaac is Abraham's only son

See Genesis 22:2 22:12 22:16 & Hebrews 11:17

The Name of Elohim is YHvH; He says so !

The Name of His Son is Yah'shua ( YHvH is my Salvation )

A study on the breath of Elohim:

Abram became Abraham

Abram became Abraham when Elohim breathed into Abram
the Ru'ach HaKodesh as indicated by the "HEY" at the end of his name.

Sarai became Sarah

Sarai became Sarah when Elohim breathed into Sarai
the Ru'ach HaKodesh as indicated by the "HEY" at the end of her name.

See the letter : Hey

Ishmael was born to Abram, when Abram was in the flesh,
before Elohim breathed the Ru'ach HaKodesh into him.

Isaac was born to Abraham and Sarah after Elohim
breathed the Ru'ach HaKodesh into both of them.

See Genesis 17 for the transition from Abram to Abraham.

Specifically Genesis 17:5

NAsbU Genesis 17:5 "No longer shall your name be called Abram,
But your name shall be Abraham;
For I will make you the father of a multitude of nations.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua
52 posted on 07/01/2014 9:09:27 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

I hear you. The whole thing is just....wrong.

Post-VII Catholics will insist that VII was “just a pastoral” Council (i.e. the Council only represented former doctrine; did not promulgate new doctrine). But I’m still trying to find the traditional Catholic doctrine that always stated that Muslims adore the same God as we do.


53 posted on 07/01/2014 9:18:42 AM PDT by piusv
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To: BlatherNaut
CCC 841, quoting the Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, Lumen Gentium 16, from Vatican II, declared: The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.
54 posted on 07/01/2014 9:20:29 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: ealgeone

Already posted that ealgeone.


55 posted on 07/01/2014 9:21:08 AM PDT by piusv
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To: null and void

“Get rid of the slave woman and her son...”

They’ve been angry ever since.


56 posted on 07/01/2014 9:28:38 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: BlatherNaut

There is no common heritage, of course.


57 posted on 07/01/2014 9:30:36 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: piusv
I always use YHvH's WORD as my bedrock.

Acts 17:11

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

58 posted on 07/01/2014 9:43:26 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: BlatherNaut

My God sent his only Son to die for me.

Their god wants me to send my only son to die for him.


59 posted on 07/01/2014 10:05:01 AM PDT by stylin19a (Obama ----> Fredo smart)
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To: elcid1970

Oh, but Christians didn’t kill people of a different faith, only muslims, and Jews that they thought were muslims.


60 posted on 07/01/2014 10:53:01 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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