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But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind.

- Lumen Gentium 16, Dogmatic Constitution promulgated by Paul VI, 1964 (Vatican II).

It is clear that Brother Paul is
vincibly ignorant.

It is clear from YHvH's WORD
Abraham had only one son, Isaac.

Abram fathered a child with a foreigner HaGar.

It was in defiance of YHvH's commandment.

Islam an Abrahamic religion ?

Descendants of Abraham ?

Clearly the creator of the universe,
YHvH does not choose them !

Descendants of Abraham?

YHvH does not think so, He repudiates them !

YHvH states that Isaac is Abraham's only son

See Genesis 22:2 22:12 22:16 & Hebrews 11:17

The Name of Elohim is YHvH; He says so !

The Name of His Son is Yah'shua ( YHvH is my Salvation )

A study on the breath of Elohim:

Abram became Abraham

Abram became Abraham when Elohim breathed into Abram
the Ru'ach HaKodesh as indicated by the "HEY" at the end of his name.

Sarai became Sarah

Sarai became Sarah when Elohim breathed into Sarai
the Ru'ach HaKodesh as indicated by the "HEY" at the end of her name.

See the letter : Hey

Ishmael was born to Abram, when Abram was in the flesh,
before Elohim breathed the Ru'ach HaKodesh into him.

Isaac was born to Abraham and Sarah after Elohim
breathed the Ru'ach HaKodesh into both of them.

See Genesis 17 for the transition from Abram to Abraham.

Specifically Genesis 17:5

NAsbU Genesis 17:5 "No longer shall your name be called Abram,
But your name shall be Abraham;
For I will make you the father of a multitude of nations.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua
52 posted on 07/01/2014 9:09:27 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

I hear you. The whole thing is just....wrong.

Post-VII Catholics will insist that VII was “just a pastoral” Council (i.e. the Council only represented former doctrine; did not promulgate new doctrine). But I’m still trying to find the traditional Catholic doctrine that always stated that Muslims adore the same God as we do.


53 posted on 07/01/2014 9:18:42 AM PDT by piusv
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