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Southern Baptist Convention: Trans People Don’t Exist
http://www.thedailybeast.com ^ | June 12, 2014 | Tyler Lopez

Posted on 06/15/2014 1:15:18 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

Forget decades of scientific studies and transgender people’s own lives—the Southern Baptist Convention has gone ahead and decided gender is only about your junk.

“Gender” refers to one’s felt, and societally constructed, sense of being male, female, or somewhere in between. As understood by a generation of psychologists, sociologists, and other scientists, it is distinct from sex, which has to do with biology, genitalia, and genetics. Put roughly, sex is between your legs. Gender is between your ears.

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TOPICS: Current Events; History; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
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To: NKP_Vet

Tyler Lopez is a queer kid

Masters at Georgetown.

When did Georgetown get so infected?


41 posted on 06/15/2014 5:38:29 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: NKP_Vet; Chode

Aaw come on, what do you mean “they don’t exist”? There were eunuchs in the Bible!!


42 posted on 06/15/2014 7:21:07 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: NKP_Vet; aposiopetic; rbmillerjr; Lowell1775; JPX2011; Jed Eckert; Recovering Ex-hippie; ...

A reminder that our separated brethren are often right!


43 posted on 06/15/2014 7:22:01 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: NCLaw441

“I admit that I have continued to have trouble understanding exactly what it means to ‘feel’ that one is of a particular gender...”

I don’t think it’s that hard to understand the issue. I’m a guy and I feel like a guy. I like guy things, and the thought of being and acting like a woman is pretty foreign to me. If tomorrow I woke up in some nightmare with lady parts rather than guy parts, it wouldn’t be so simple as looking down, shrugging and saying “guess I’m a lady now.” I’d still feel like a guy and being and acting like a woman would feel really weird and distasteful to me. That’s the situation many of these folks find themselves in, and gender perception is pretty resistant to change.

There’s certainly room for disagreement about what they should do about the mismatch between their sex and their felt gender, but it’s not an easy position to be in, and it’s not as simple as changing their minds. There is no known drug or psychotherapy that is successful at getting people to change their felt gender. Think for a second about what it would take to get you to change yours. Most of them just live “in the closet” and try to fit into the gender that is consistent with their sex, but they never feel right about it and they experience lifelong distress about it.

It’s a psychological disorder, so it’s by definition an experience most people aren’t familiar with. If you still have trouble understanding it, think about people with phantom limb pain. It’s odd, but they can stare at the place where their arm used to be and still feel that arm hurting like crazy. It’s not like they can just turn off the pain with logic.


44 posted on 06/15/2014 9:06:39 PM PDT by Kahonek
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To: Kahonek

Well, you waking up to look down and see lady parts after a lifetime of being a guy with guy parts isn’t really the same. What does it mean to “feel like a guy” or “feel like a girl” anyway? Guys want to fix cars and girls want to go shoe shopping? Roles are not nearly as cut and dried as they once were. People don’t have to mutilate their bodies or pump them with artificial hormones to engage in activities once consigned to the opposite sex.


45 posted on 06/15/2014 10:03:11 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Birth announcements stating a baby’s sex/gender are so last century. Now parents will have to say they had a baby who will determine when it is ready what sex/gender it believes itself to be.


46 posted on 06/15/2014 10:09:27 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: all the best

“If what’s between your ears doesn’t match what’s between your legs, it makes a whole lot more sense to change what’s between your ears.”

Well said. As a matter of fact - the sermon I listened to today was right along those lines. Our feelings are controlled by our thoughts.


47 posted on 06/15/2014 10:50:32 PM PDT by babyfreep
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To: katwoman5779

Makes me wonder what the next move the homofascists will make next!


48 posted on 06/16/2014 12:08:30 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Kahonek

I get what you are saying, and I don’t dispute it. You make sense— in a normal analysis. When you say, “I like guy things” it makes sense to me. But we are being taught there is NO SUCH THING as “guy things.” Girls can like the same things and not be considered weird. The very same mindset that has created this transgender issue (or at least brought it to the forefront of discussion) has intentionally destroyed, or tried to destroy, all of our former notions about what it means to be a guy vs. being a girl.

When a person says “I feel like a girl” what do they mean??


49 posted on 06/16/2014 5:08:20 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I’m fairly certain that God has anticipated EVERYTHING


50 posted on 06/16/2014 6:46:40 AM PDT by chesley
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To: NCLaw441; informavoracious

“When a person says ‘I feel like a girl’ what do they mean??”

Paging Shania Twain...

Seriously, you don’t “feel like” the sex you are? Would you be just as comfortable with the parts of the opposite sex, and “passing” as the opposite sex? I wouldn’t. There is a sense of gendered self that people have, and in most people, it’s consistent with their sex. In these folks, it’s not. That’s what makes it a disorder. If you think about it, to have something so basic to your existence confused must be very distressing. I think the understanding part of it is easy. It’s the treatment part that’s not.


51 posted on 06/16/2014 10:57:11 AM PDT by Kahonek
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52 posted on 06/16/2014 11:00:00 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NKP_Vet

Yes indeed, I would choose to except God’s definition regarding sex and gender, rather the the modern day witchdoctors of psychology, scientists, and psychiatrists. God’s word is much more reliable than theory and philosophy.


53 posted on 06/16/2014 11:05:14 AM PDT by evangmlw
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To: NKP_Vet

It’s not a matter of “understanding gender,” but rather an issue of understanding God’s truth.


54 posted on 06/16/2014 11:06:33 AM PDT by evangmlw
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To: NKP_Vet

Common sense has prevailed once again with the Baptists. Just because some mentally deranged pervert undergoes genital mutilation surgery and injects themselves with a daily dose of steroids doesn’t mean they have changed their gender. These people are in serious need of psychotherapy.


55 posted on 06/16/2014 11:15:26 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Dear twits at the Daily Beast:

It’s not about your ‘junk.’ It’s about your chromosomes. And you can’t change those, no matter how much you might whine and moan.

Get used to it. Mother Nature is a bitch.

Sincerely,

Me


56 posted on 06/16/2014 11:17:13 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: Kahonek

Hey, don’t get me wrong. I have no questions about who I am, and neither does my wife. My point is that the liberals have doubled back on themselves. They have tried to destroy the meaning of what it is to be a man or a woman. If a man can be anything and feel any way, and the same for a woman, then gender ends up having no meaning. Transgender means what, then? If you claim to be transgendered, how can that be? Sexual orientation doesn’t matter anymore. Behaviors do not belong to any particular sex or gender, so what does it mean to “identify” as a male or a female?


57 posted on 06/16/2014 12:05:58 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Sans-Culotte
If I dressed like a musketeer and said I was d’Artagnan, I’d be considered deluded. If I claimed to be a woman trapped in a man’s body, I’d be considered normal.

Excellent !!

58 posted on 06/16/2014 1:40:47 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: SeeSharp

You’re RIGHT!


59 posted on 06/16/2014 2:08:05 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: informavoracious

You’re right! As a female, I used to enjoy tinkering with my motorcycle before going in and relaxing with some embroidery project. Of course all of that was before getting married and having children, it was when I had plenty of free time, but I felt I had it all! It never crossed my mind that I was acting like a guy, I just did what I wanted to do that day. That’s all. It’s not complicated at all!


60 posted on 06/16/2014 2:17:10 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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