The Magisterium of Sophomores: another High School explosion

WDTPRS ^ | 4/12/2014 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

[kitkat]

This is absolutely the most confusing report I’ve ever read. Did the speaker hold up the Catholic viewpoint, or not? Or did he hold it up in such a way that children of divorced parents, for example, were made ashamed, etc?

Then the speaker was wrong since the students were not to blame for their parents’ action.

Or did the principal seem to approve of the speakers’ actions if they were unCatholic?

Markomalley, I would appreciate some information about the above. I’ve read it twice and still don’t know who is to blame.

[kitkat]

This is absolutely the most confusing report I’ve ever read. Did the speaker hold up the Catholic viewpoint, or not? Or did he hold it up in such a way that children of divorced parents, for example, were made ashamed, etc?

Then the speaker was wrong since the students were not to blame for their parents’ action.

Or did the principal seem to approve of the speakers’ actions if they were unCatholic?

Markomalley, I would appreciate some information about the above. I’ve read it twice and still don’t know who is to blame.

[Talisker]

American Catholicism serves Pope Hillary.

Get that through your head, and nothing they do will surprise you anymore.

[imardmd1]

Most of us who are Bible-believers simply have not understood how deeply the forces of iniquity have embedded tolerance, acceptance, and promotion of personal depravity such that acknowledgement of The God, His Christ, and Biblical morality must be stamped out of all aspects touching public life.

Private schools cannot escape the invasion of public opinion if they refuse to teach the Biblical standards by which the conduct of the parents of their children would obviously be condemned.

[hinckley buzzard]

With a principal who is so severely limited intellectualy it is no surprise the students act like a band of ignoramuses.

[vladimir998]

“Did the speaker hold up the Catholic viewpoint, or not? Or did he hold it up in such a way that children of divorced parents, for example, were made ashamed, etc?”

Looks more like the latter, but I have a caveat to throw in here. I think what happened is that the priest spoke very bluntly and the liberal, pro-gay, pro-divorce, pro-abortion, pro-contraception, pro-fornication teenage audience and wolves-in-sheep-clothing faculty were all offended. The only alternative is if he was just a complete jacka$$ but I don’t see how he could have reached his position in life and come across that way intentionally.

[GeronL]

They should be hearing this stuff daily- if they are shocked to hear it the school is a failure

[Salvation]

What is it? Guilty until proven innocent? What is wrong with these Catholic Schools?

[Mrs. Don-o]

Almost 1,400 words in this article, and not one sentence quoted from"Fr. Rocky's" talk; not even a paraphrase of his approach to his topics.

How can one form a judgment, or even an intelligent opinion, based on zero information?

They call this journalism?

[NYer]

Belated ping!

[AnAmericanMother]

This isn't "journalism" per se. This is part of a ongoing commentary over at WDTPRS about the latest episode in the trend of high school students and their catechism-challenged moms going ballistic over a Catholic school teaching . . . gasp! . . . Catholic doctrine.

There are links at the site to this controversy and the one in Charlotte.

[verga]

What is wrong with these Catholic Schools?

They are Catholic in Name only. High School versions of Georgetown and Notre Dame.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Yes --- I'm sorry I was pretty unclear. I was referring to the long article Fr.Z was fisking, from Independent RI, the Rhode Island newspaper that had the write-up about the principal to begin with. I was not referring to Fr. Z and WDTPRS.

I've been following this and the one in Charlotte. The Charlotte incident particularly left me sucker-punched, since the President of Aquinas College dramatically failed to support Sr. Jane Dominic, who has in actual fact been suppressed.

When even Aquinas shafts their most accomplished and gifted catechist, you know something ain't right. Somthing deeply, deeply, deeply ain't right.

[AnAmericanMother]

I'm hoping that Fr. Z's alternate theory is true - that Aquinas is protecting Sr. Jane Dominic from threats. Let things die down a bit so she isn't attacked - apparently there have been what they call "credible threats".

And you know that some of these radical homosexualists are just crazy enough to try something.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Fr. Z's alternate theory may have some foundation, but it can't erase the Aquinas College president's statement, ("There are no words that are able to reverse the harm that has been caused by these comments") -- referring to Sr. Jane Dominic's comments --- still on their website.

So she's accused of practically irreparable harm --- even though the Chancellor of the Diocese said there was nothing in her talk that was opposed to Catholic faith and morals --- and they're treating the kids as if they would have to be trauma-counseled after an attack by a deranged rifleman.

And basically the Aquinas President Sr. Mary Sarah suppressed her as a speaker and teacher, and exiled her into long silence as if she were a serial buggerer like Marcial Maciel.

[AnAmericanMother]

Oh dear, that does sound very bad indeed.

Sometimes you do more harm than good rushing to make an abject apology.

Our archbishop tied himself up into knots apologizing for a perfectly good business decision, and his course of action is going to waste a whole lot more money than was spent in the first place.

Sometimes I wish our ordinaries were less like Casper Milquetoast and more like "Dagger John" Hughes. THERE was a bishop with a backbone and to spare (even if he was more than a little scary, he was highly effective.)

He would have excommunicated the whole lot of them, with a generous helping of fire and brimstone on the side.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Dagger John! My hero!

[AnAmericanMother]

He single-handedly integrated the Irish into American life. Stopped the Draft Riots, too, though he was pitifully sick (and actually dying) when he addressed the mob.

We sure could use him today - he understood anti-Catholicism and that you can't allow yourself to be bullied.

Kind of looks like the Iron Duke in this portrait.

[AnAmericanMother]

Da Duke:

A little bit uncanny.