Posted on 12/08/2013 12:35:03 PM PST by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Imagine if an activist group blanketed a major city with 55 billboards urging that illegal aliens go back to their own country. Or that homosexuality is a crime against nature. Or that Muslims are responsible for most of the world’s terrorist attacks.
The mainstream media would be all over the story. Organizations – like La Raza, like GLAAD, like CAIR – would organize protests. President Obama would publicly condemn the billboards (while defending illegals, homosexuals and Islam). And the sponsors of the billboards would be branded a “hate group.”
Yet, there has been little outrage over the 55 billboards that started going up last week in Sacramento, California that mock Christians, that blaspheme God. They are sponsored by the so-called Freedom From Religion Foundation, an atheist organization based in Madison, Wisconsin that truly is a hate group.
“I don’t believe in Odin, either,” sneers one billboard. “Studying the bible made me an atheist,” disparages another. “Without god I am full of love,” declares still another.
Yet, Judy Saint, director of FFRF’s newly formed Sacramento chapter, insists that the 55 billboards are not anti-Christian, not anti-God. They just thought it would be a good way to encourage atheists on the down low to “come out of the closet”
“There are thousands of us here,” she said, “and we are reaching out to them because it’s such a maligned minority. If the message at all is to believers, it would be that we are good moral people, too.”
But, by her own words, Saint reveals the nefariousness of the atheist movement in this country.
She suggests that atheists are an unfairly maligned minority. But if the noisome atheist community – which constitutes less than 1 percent of the U.S. population – is maligned, it’s because of their attacks on Christians by in-your-face atheist groups like FFRF.
Indeed, not only are the atheists putting up 55 billboards that bash the religious faith of more than three-quarters of Americans, they have deliberately chosen to do so during the Christmas season, defecating on a holy day on which Christians celebrate the birth of Christ the Lord.
Saint also claims that she and her fellow atheists are both “good” and “moral.”
But there is no good in the atheists’ (un)holy war against Christianity, using billboards as their weapon of attack. And there is no morality in the atheist community’s endorsement of such practices as same-sex marriage.
Indeed, one of FFRF’s 55 billboards features Saint, the atheist hate group’s Sacramento front woman, and her wife with the message: “Reason. Equality. Doing Good – All without gods.”
That’s the arrogance of atheists that they inherited from their father, the devil. They think that “doing good” means they are good. But the Bible advises that their good works, whatever they might be, “are as filthy rags” before the Almighty.
The Word of God also tell us, everyone, “There is none righteous, no not one.”
The difference between unrighteous Christians and unrighteous atheists is that Christians are born again; their sins covered by the blood of Christ. Atheists, on the other hand reject Christ, and shake their fist at God.
And for their unrepentant, unforgiven sin, the unGodly will spend their existence beyond this fallen world in everlasting torment.
I have no interest in defending the atheism that exists to attack Christianity, any more than I would defend the Christianity that exists to attack atheism.
I am describing atheism.
I didn’t move the goal post.
Still, ok. No problem.
“On the other hand, I will assert the equivalence of a billboard that proselytizes for atheism and one which proselytizes for Christianity.”
Fair enough, but why do you exclude the Islamist proselytizing from this group?
This is why I support the death penalty. I have no belief in an afterlife; as far as I know, this life is all we get. That being the case, murder is the ultimate crime, and deserves the ultimate punishment.
>> I have no interest in defending the atheism that exists to attack Christianity
Well, you picked the wrong thread to advance your support for atheism.
You described the billboard in question as one which advocates "Islamic terrorism". I do not find a billboard which advocates flying planes into the World Trade Center morally equivalent to billboards advocating Christianity or atheism.
Is this a point of contention?
Not a point of contention.
What if the billboards did not mention terrorism but just advertised the mosque and said, eg, say Happy Ramadan?
Where have I supported atheism? I've explained why I'm an atheist, but nowhere have I urged others to adopt my point of view.
If it helps to clarify things, I think the atheist billboards in question are a waste of time and money. Of course, it's their money to waste, so I don't have the slightest problem with it. Free speech and all that.
As religions go, I don't like Islam...but they would have every right to put such a billboard up. I certainly recognize the distinction between Islam and modern Christianity in their treatment of members of other religions, which is why I prefer to live in a country dominated by Christians rather than one controlled by Muslims.
While I plan on traveling the world when I retire in a few years, Saudi Arabia is not on my bucket list!
Whenever somebody says that to me, I ask them to please not do that.
If there is a "god", I've had way too much attention from him or her already. I don't need any more.
Dear Atheists..
If there is no god, and you are right. Nothing happens..
If there is a god, and I am right. You go to hell.
So.. I am having a hard time seeing your logic.
>> Pray away. There’s no one listening
Said the fool with 4 senses.
It doesn't bother me in the slightest; I have no reason to think that it will effect me in any way, after all, and it (usually) means that the person in question is taking my best interests to heart (as they see it, anyway).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_inconsistent_revelations
4? I'm afraid I don't get the reference.
I’ve known many atheists in my life, and more agnostics. The atheists I’ve known, every one of them, had deep seated issues with authority and didn’t get on well with their fathers. Most were angry, most were substance abusers. Most put entirely too much emphasis on their educational attainment and trusted academia to an unwarranted degree. The agnostics were an easier bunch, less hostility to religion in general and Christianity in particular. They just went about their lives, not hardline at all. You sound more agnostic than atheist. Are you sure you’re not just playing devil’s advocate here?
Glad you say this, as i meant to ping you. You are part way there, but how many get what they deserve? (Esp. in politics.) This still leaves massive injustice, not only for what evil we affected here, but in God's realm it effects eternity, and has eternal ramifications.
Then there is the problem of having no proven transcendent moral standard common to atheists, outside their own varied moral reasoning.
Please define the difference between an atheist and an antitheist, if you would.
Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. The former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice.
Yeah, if the Christian organization is putting up billboards INSTEAD of helping the poor.
My father and I get along extremely well; I just took him on a photo safari to South Africa (camped in Kruger National Park!), and I'm taking him to Alaska next year for a fishing trip. I've actually moved back in with may parents to help them; they're getting quite elderly, but a nursing home will be the last resort if I have anything to say about it.
Most were angry,
I'm virtually never angry.
most were substance abusers.
I've never tried illegal drugs in my life, and imbibe at most a single drink every few months.
Most put entirely too much emphasis on their educational attainment
Does two years of college majoring in physics count? :-)
and trusted academia to an unwarranted degree.
Outside the hard sciences (and even they are being infected by political correctness, see "climate change"), I don't trust academia in the slightest.
The agnostics were an easier bunch, less hostility to religion in general and Christianity in particular. They just went about their lives, not hardline at all. You sound more agnostic than atheist. Are you sure you’re not just playing devil’s advocate here?
Perhaps it's because my attitude towards the religions of others is largely this:
"Are you going to intrude in the business of others without their consent?"
"No?"
"Then who cares what you believe?"
Rest assured, I'm an atheist. Of the "weak" variety, granted, which is closer to agnosticism than "strong" atheism. Internet discussions aside, religion has virtually no impact on my life, unlike (to bring it back on-topic) the busybodies who are putting up the atheist billboards.
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