Posted on 11/28/2010 4:13:46 PM PST by bibletruth
NIV Bible error - Lucifer AND Jesus are ONE in the NIV. See Isaiah 14:12.
How do you know what Gospel the Church teaches? How much time have you spent in a Catholic Church? To state that God did not lead me to the Catholic Church takes some bold presumption on your part. To presume that you know the mind of God and how he speaks to me personally and through his Word is dangerously sinful. And I say that with love for you and for your soul.
I have already went against my own advice and allowed myself to be caught up in a circular arguement. So I will end this now. God bless.
I simply read the chapter a bit further on. No big mystery or taking anyone’s word over the Scripture.
This is exactly why the Catholic church is wrong on all doctrine in the Bible regarding Grace Salvation and In Christ Truths:
Characteristics of a cult:
1) They claim to be the **true** church. Dominus Iesus, 2000: they are considered separated brethren as long as they baptized and are ignorant that Rome is the one true church
2) If a person leaves the **true** church they risk eternal damnation in hell. requires submission to her to be assured of [salvation]
3) They have an anointed hierarchy. a Pope, which is forbidden by Matthew 23:9 and Exodus 20
4) This hierarchy regardless of how corrupt is impervious to reform by action of the common laity.
5) Salvation is through the ministration of the **true** sacraments by their **true** priesthood. Of course if a member leaves the true sacraments and true priesthood he is in danger of eternal damnation. Christ alone is our High Priest - Hebrews 7:22-25
Well, gee, Perfessor, it's good we've got you to learn us good, then.
KJV-onlyism is to Christian theology what pro wrestling is to sports.
What i meant by “requires submission to her to be assured of” was not salvation, concerning which Rome teaches that works done by grace are meritorious for salvation (Trent), but that of assurance that Rome is what she claims to be, as only by faith in Rome’s formulaic assured infallibility can man have doctrinal assurance. Fallible human reasoning can be appealed to, but once one becomes a a Catholic it is taught that he is not to question Rome’s infallible teachings (though it is not known what all may be included as such) or search the Scriptures to determines their validity.
As concerns cults, #4 is foundational, as a typical mark of such is that of effectively making a man or an office the supreme doctrinal authority on earth, rather than the Scriptures, which is the only objective source which we are assured are wholly inspired of God, (2Tim. 3:16) and thus assuredly infallible. And this is not restricted to Rome, or Mormonism, etc, but churches who censure those who dare sincerely question doctrines and practices which are allow for some degree of debate.
Those who hold to the supremacy of Scripture cannot hold that they are infallible, but are bound to substantiate their case by the Scriptures, and the manner of doctrinal exegesis it overall manifests. And thus we agree with Rome on certain core essentials, such as is written in the Nicene Creed, while being in opposition to those which fail of Scriptural warrant, and are contrary to it.
In addition, the authenticity of true men and churches of God is not based upon self-declaration and or formal lineage, but is established by holiness, doctrine and the power of God which conforms to that which is written, which Scriptures themselves become established as being such due to their heavenly qualities. Good night.
LOL. And on that hilariously inept note, can we ignore anything else you say as equally sloppy and inaccurate research?
Lol. While you yourself are claiming final authority. You are a parody of yourself and you look rediculous.
“Son of the morning” means ‘morning star’.
RE: No need to pray for me
When one makes a statement like that it manifests the sin of pride, as if one is sinless and perfect.
Despite that, we are commanded to pray for each other by our Lord and Savior, so I will.
RE: Sure, it’s really difficult to think that an all wise God would set absolute truth on paper so that man wouldn’t be able to corrupt it with his heresy and error.
LOL...as evidenced by the congruity of espoused “Truth” generated by Christians who hold that the Bible is the only source of Truth. Wow. < /sarcasm>
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, who didst rise in the morning? how art thou fallen to the earth, that didst wound the nations?This is as it is in the Douay-Rheims authorized translation which is correct.
"O Lucifer"... O day star. All this, according to the letter, is spoken of the king of Babylon. It may also be applied, in a spiritual sense, to Lucifer the prince of devils, who was created a bright angel, but fell by pride and rebellion against God.
“Create evil”... The evils of afflictions and punishments, but not the evil of sin.
Nope, that seems to be your role in your attempt to stop anyone from questioning the OP. At that, the only thing you seem to bring to most threads is this usual banter.
I thought your church was this one because this is what I got when I googled.
http://www.rockycreekonline.org/index.htm
The link is to a church in Greenville, SC
Are your churches the same? Do they preach the same thing? Why the same name?
I read the anti-Catholic rant on the website.
http://www.rockycreekbaptist.org/Catholicism.html
It seems obvious to me that no one there has ever read anything about Catholicism on their own. They are just regurgitating anti-Catholic screeds that they have heard from others.
At least have the intellectual honesty to research for yourself.
Which comes from the human mind...which God created too.
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