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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: Natural Law
You better check with St. Barbara, she is the Patron Saint of Artillery. I did spend enough time in the Army to know that a sealed cannon can be dangerous.

Putting a signet ring in wax on a cannon is dangerous? You have more wisdom than I...:)

13,581 posted on 10/20/2010 4:28:26 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: maryz; Jaded; presently no screen name; RnMomof7
How did you learn about Him and learn to know Him better?

The interrogation commences, yet again. I think RnMomof7 has been giving lessons.

If you don't have their "so-called" church's magic phrase EXACTLY word for word correct, then you are condemned.....Amazingly, none of those magic phrases come from John 6.

13,582 posted on 10/20/2010 4:28:42 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne
The Case of the Very Bitter Life

Chapter 2: Mystery or Miracle?

"Hey, wait a minute..I've never seen the wine actually curdle before..."

13,583 posted on 10/20/2010 4:29:08 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
"Hey, wait a minute..I've never seen the wine actually curdle before..."

Neither have I....what happened?

13,584 posted on 10/20/2010 4:31:56 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: RnMomof7
Actually Rome added non inspired writing to the OT without the authority to do that ,so I guess maybe the Catholic bible is not completely the word of God .

Nonsense. The Septuagint has always been the OT of Christians. No additions required. And none done.

13,585 posted on 10/20/2010 4:32:41 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: kosta50; metmom; 1000 silverlings; RnMomof7; Quix; smvoice; bkaycee; wmfights; count-your-change
When I see people praying in public I see hypocrites praying to be seen. Obviously Jesus did too.

I'm just curious why you didn't ping any of your Catholic "buds" in this post. Are you afraid they may take offense that you consider them hypocrites, too?

13,586 posted on 10/20/2010 4:34:39 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums; Quix
I liked the way you spoke like Gollum would (it was funny), but just like him, you may be deluded. He was a twit, not the party you may have thought you were speaking of.

Thought? Deluded? Our friend has a whole bunch of reality issues, not to mention theological ones.

13,587 posted on 10/20/2010 4:35:16 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: OLD REGGIE

What’s unfair? Dr. E. claimed that the Catholic Church was shrinking. I showed that it was actually growing along with the population of the US. What is propaganda? What is borderline dishonest?


13,588 posted on 10/20/2010 4:39:16 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Having a problem with alcoholic beverages? We’ll pray for you. Thanks for admitting it in a public forum. Which step is this, by the way?


13,589 posted on 10/20/2010 4:40:51 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Ping to post


13,590 posted on 10/20/2010 4:42:11 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: RnMomof7

The fact that some will take instruction from one that doubts Gods existence speaks for itself..


Generally speaking, I think that’s a very apt observation.


13,591 posted on 10/20/2010 4:47:02 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: boatbums

THX THX


13,592 posted on 10/20/2010 4:54:51 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Natural Law

Then it would seem imprudent for you to joke about drinking games.

Not so funny.


13,593 posted on 10/20/2010 5:03:33 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: presently no screen name

How do we get to know anyone better? It’s really too big a topic for an internet post and too personal to discuss in a hostile environment.


13,594 posted on 10/20/2010 5:05:46 PM PDT by maryz
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To: smvoice; MarkBsnr

Smvoice, apparently he has no answer to your excellent questions.

Wouldn’t you think that lack would be cause for concern to a Christian?


13,595 posted on 10/20/2010 5:07:40 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: smvoice

Amen! Great Christian witness. 8~)


13,596 posted on 10/20/2010 5:11:39 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: maryz; Judith Anne
If you don't have their "so-called" church's magic phrase EXACTLY word for word correct, then you are condemned....

Maryz - It appears JA has control issues with an attempt to prevent you from speaking for yourself. Nothing new with that. I'm not looking for exact words nor looking to condemn. That bitterness comes from JA along with her attempt at reading my mind.

So no need to reply - lest you are frowned upon - since you just got JA's warning.

You might want to rethink It's the Catholics on this thread who have been insisting (in the face of opposition from the Calvinists and possibly others) that God is love. . How are they insisting? Do their posts support that?

Control is manipulation and a form of witchcraft. Not strange, either, the use of 'magic'. All from the dark side.

Since you know God and have grown to know Him better, I have no doubt you understand how darkness hates light.
13,597 posted on 10/20/2010 5:13:34 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: maryz
and too personal to discuss in a hostile environment.

How right you are!
13,598 posted on 10/20/2010 5:22:14 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
Having a problem with alcoholic beverages? We’ll pray for you. Thanks for admitting it in a public forum. Which step is this, by the way?

Where did Dr E admit she has a alcohol problem?
13,599 posted on 10/20/2010 5:29:44 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Got it, thanks for the ping.


13,600 posted on 10/20/2010 5:30:43 PM PDT by Gamecock ( Christianity is not the movement from vice to virtue, but from virtue to Grace.)
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