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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr
When you say "investigate the truth," what truth are investigating? That no witnesses were ever named, and that even the authors who wrote about the unnamed witnesses are not named except according to the legend and tradition believed by the Church you reject?

Glad you asked. I was doing a little research last night and I discovered quite a bit more concerning your "no eyewitnesses". First of all, many names are given in the scriptures and we know from history and "traditions" - see we aren't scared of that word - that they were real people. Remember, the books were written while many of those same eyewitnesses were still living and could have, would have, disputed the claims were they untrue.

Let's just look at the first few books of the NT (as far as I got last night). Although specific names were not given every time, and I think they weren't simply because it was not the point to glorify them, many of the people back then knew exactly who was being spoken of and we can know from the traditional works what some of those people went on to accomplish. BTW....what good would it do to give the name of the lepers healed by Jesus, we would not know who they were today, nor really care, would you?

From Matthew first few chapters, the people spoken of were:

Mary, Joseph, the Magi, the people who lived in Nazareth, John the Baptist, the people who lived in Capernium area of Zebulon and Naphtali, Simon Peter, Andrew his brother, James and John and their Dad, Zebedee, people in Galilee and Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea, across the Jordan, all the crowd on the hillside during the sermons, the man healed of leprosy, the Capernium centurian and his servant who was healed, Peter's mother-in-law.

I could go on, but I hope you see my point. Read for yourself the accounts of those healed, who believed, who spoke both for and against the teachings and actions of Jesus and his disciples. Their voices cry out to me and I find it hard to believe they were all some figment of someone's imagination.

13,561 posted on 10/20/2010 2:32:43 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: maryz
It's the Catholics on this thread who have been insisting (in the face of opposition from the Calvinists and possibly others) that God is love.

You say God is love. Do you know HIM?
13,562 posted on 10/20/2010 2:33:37 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Yes.


13,563 posted on 10/20/2010 2:37:51 PM PDT by maryz
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To: RnMomof7
The fact that some will take instruction from one that doubts Gods existence speaks for itself..

The blind leading the blind and insisting they can see better than anyone else - and they don't know what they are looking for.

But very sure what they don't want - God's Holy Word.

Deception knows no bounds as witnessed here.
13,564 posted on 10/20/2010 2:49:25 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: kosta50; metmom; 1000 silverlings; RnMomof7; Quix; smvoice; bkaycee; wmfights
I am not aware of that being a practice in any of the Protestant churches I have attended in my life

Most of Protestant "services" (at least those that are not liturgical) consits of a preacher babbling endlessly.

I'm sorry, somehow I had fooled myself into believing I wasn't dealing with an idiot.

13,565 posted on 10/20/2010 2:50:49 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: maryz

How did you get to know Him?


13,566 posted on 10/20/2010 2:52:36 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: MarkBsnr
Then we might define the arena as exclusively the US alone. In the US arena, the percentage of Catholics of the total population has been stable for some time now at just shy of 25%, as opposed to any claims of anything else. Fair?

No it's not fair. It's propaganda and borderline dishonest.

13,567 posted on 10/20/2010 2:54:08 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Natural Law; MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
A few more days on this thread and I am going to need a liver transplant.

It would be a waste of a scarce resource to transplant a good liver if the brain is already pickled.

13,568 posted on 10/20/2010 3:03:48 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: boatbums; MarkBsnr; kosta50; D-fendr
"I just question why it seems few Catholics here do little more than praise his every post even when it makes their own faith out to look like it's based on myths and no different from any other of the myriads "manmade" religions."

Have you missed his hatred toward non-liturgical Protestant Churches? That's enough for some.

13,569 posted on 10/20/2010 3:08:05 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE
"It would be a waste of a scarce resource to transplant a good liver if the brain is already pickled."

Its a good thing for you then that Christianity is a faith of the heart and not the brain.

13,570 posted on 10/20/2010 3:34:47 PM PDT by Natural Law (Don't automatically presume the voices in your hear are the Holy Spirit.)
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To: OLD REGGIE; boatbums; MarkBsnr; kosta50; D-fendr
"non-liturgical Protestant Churches"

Is that even a real classification since even the KKK or the cast of the Rocky Horror Picture Show would qualify as a "non-liturgical Protestant Church" if they harbor even the slightest hatred toward the Catholic Church?

13,571 posted on 10/20/2010 3:39:33 PM PDT by Natural Law (Don't automatically presume the voices in your hear are the Holy Spirit.)
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To: Natural Law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism


13,572 posted on 10/20/2010 3:48:28 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: presently no screen name
How did you get to know Him?

At first? Can't remember -- I was too young; I don't remember a time when I didn't know Him. Naturally, I've learned more about Him and learned to know Him better over the years.

13,573 posted on 10/20/2010 3:49:42 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
In actuality I do not drink. I was raised by alcoholics and saw the destruction it brings. I was making sport of your addiction to insulting "Rome" with your every post.

(Before you go there my mother was a Lutheran.)

13,574 posted on 10/20/2010 3:53:54 PM PDT by Natural Law (Don't automatically presume the voices in your hear are the Holy Spirit.)
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To: smvoice
Jesus Christ did NOT die so you could impress Him by eating fish on Fridays.

Mercy! A REAL testimony! Preach it, sister!

13,575 posted on 10/20/2010 4:04:26 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

sure, that’s why you have all the growth in Pentecostalism


13,576 posted on 10/20/2010 4:10:13 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: OLD REGGIE; kosta50
hatred toward non-liturgical Protestant Churches?

What's not to love:


13,577 posted on 10/20/2010 4:15:43 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: maryz
I've learned more about Him and learned to know Him better over the years.

How did you learn about Him and learn to know Him better?
13,578 posted on 10/20/2010 4:19:56 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: smvoice

Such Christian Witness!


13,579 posted on 10/20/2010 4:22:23 PM PDT by Jaded (Stumbling blocks ALL AROUND, some of them camouflaged well. My toes hurt, but I got past them.)
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To: smvoice
Mark, why did Jesus Christ have to die? Seriously, what does the RCC teach about the death of Christ? And what about the resurrection of Christ? What was the reason for that? Or is there any real reason for it, according to the RCC?

What is this RCC moniker from you, anyway.

If you wish to discuss this more thoroughly, please read Hebrews 9, as well as the Passions in each Gospel first. Then, we can discuss either here on the open forum or in PM.

13,580 posted on 10/20/2010 4:28:08 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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