Posted on 10/10/2009 11:10:58 AM PDT by bogusname
I wish I could have been a fly on that wall. Horner taught my vertebrate paleontology class when I was an undergrad. Vapid evo he is and a fossil nazi.
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(use of “liberal” by tpanther counter increments....)
“The recent discoveries of soft dinosaur tissues, defined cell matrices, elastic blood vessels, and clearly observable cell microstructures”
“Soft tissues” were not discovered
“blood vessels” were not discovered
everything else was fossilized, or remnants of proteins were detected.
So pretty much everything else is, well, bogus, mr. bogus.
“More bad news for blind cult followers of Evolution:”
Does this group include everyone that doesn’t believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis?
“Evolution is their RELIGION.”
Is it, or does evolution simply conflict with your interpretation of YOUR religion?
You really mean to say that anyone who believes in evolution is going to hell, don’t you? Please be an honest “creation science” guy (if there is such a beast) when you answer.
Calm down RF. Use your head.
If you were to travel to some distant planet and found a bolt, washer and nut miles from your ship, you could make a list of accurate conclusions.
1)If I didn’t put these here someone else did.
2)These are the products of a society because no single person would go to the trouble of making such devices for himself alone.
3)These people know something of metallurgy.
4)They have a knowledge of math and measurements.
5)They use tools
6)They build things or they wouldn’t need a fastening device.
All of these statements would be true regardless of where these things came from. You would never come to the conclusion that nature created them by happenstance. Yet you would, upon seeing the infinitely more complex design of human beings, conclude that nature did the handiwork.
“You really mean to say that anyone who believes in evolution is going to hell, don’t you? Please be an honest “creation science” guy (if there is such a beast) when you answer”.
See...that didn’t take long at all for ding-dong!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2359966/posts?q=1&;page=168
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Well, I take that back, recently “tenacious” something or other pointed out the mischaracterization of creationists on the idea that someone will go to hell if they believe in evolution, corrected his “fellow evo” on such nonsense.
That’s true. I don’t even make an attempt to convince them anymore.
That's rich. You agree with metmom, yet just upthread you posted a link to an ICR article by Russell Humphreys which is STILL -- in 2005!!! -- using, unmodified, long debunked young earth earth arguments like the (supposed) decay of the earth's magnetic field, polonium halos, highly deformed strata, benthic sediment and sea salt. Good Lord! How did moon dust and Paluxy "manprints" manage to get excluded?
Did you say “Good Lord”? Now that’s rich.
God is right and in this case so is metmom.
[[That teacher, by the way, was a shaggy long haired fellow]]
I was not there I tell you!
LOL, hey wait...that wasn’t a slam against long hair. This guy seriously looked like he had a role in “The Planet Of The Apes.” I think he might have read so many books on evolution that it had an adverse effect on his DNA.
please rewrite your post to include the liberal use of the world “liberal” and re-post.
“Calm down RF. Use your head.
If you were to travel to some distant planet and found a bolt, washer and nut miles from your ship, you could make a list of accurate conclusions.”
Those conclusions would be accurate in your case. To make it like the case at hand,
1. They didn’t find a bolt, washer, or nut
2. They found something that may look like a bolt washer & nut
So all your conclusions, while reasonable, are undermined for want of a bolt.
“And then they wonder why people aren’t falling for evolution wholesale.”
Nobody cares who believes in evolution. The reason creation science fails is because it is wrong.
My goodness you’re closed minded. Peace
“My goodness you’re closed minded. Peace”
And how is it that you reach that conclusion? Perhaps, as in all of “creation science” you require a preordained conclusion, with no actual supporting facts?
My conclusion is correct. You missed the point I was trying to make. If you would know with 100% certainty that a bolt, washer and nut had an intelligent designer, how much more sure should you be with something like human DNA?If nature won’t form three things that fit together well so as to form a bolt, washer and nut, just how do you dream it formed, over any period of time, the complex human organism.
You are suffering from the “I have the magic spark of truth in me” syndrome. Just because you want something to be true that doesn’t make it true.
“You are suffering from the “I have the magic spark of truth in me” syndrome. Just because you want something to be true that doesn’t make it true.”
The article makes claims that aren’t true, mainly that preserved soft tissue was found. I am appropriately skeptical of everything else in the article because the conclusions are not supported by what has been found.
How am I suffering from a syndrome? How are you not suffering from the aforementioned syndrome?
Intelligent Design, like “creation science” in general, suffers from “wishful thinking” upfront - they make no secret that whatever is found, it will support creationism, no matter what is found.
Sure
By the way RF, a few posts back you said they didn’t find any blood vessels. I have read several accounts regarding this particular find and have seen two or three videos. This is, of course, old news but if you look around a little you’ll find a video that actually shows the blood vessels. If that’s too hard for you to do, with the syndrome and all, you’re not worthy of that special gift of truth that you just know you possess.
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