Experts call Biblical artifact a fake

USA Today ^ | 06/18/03 | Associated Press

[bedolido]

JERUSALEM (AP)

[Norse]

he's jewish - of course he would take issue with Jesus

[BrooklynGOP]

How is the authenticity important?

According to MissAmericanPie - its not. I got a few Jesus related antiques I'ld like to sell her.

[BrooklynGOP]

he's jewish - of course he would take issue with Jesus

What's his issue? Is he denying that Jesus existed? Or is he saying that this is not an authentic item?

[Norse]

Man, if you don't understand what i'm saying - i'm not even going to take the time to explain it.

[psychoknk]

he's jewish - of course he would take issue with Jesus

Not necessarily. Many Jews accept Jesus's existance, however, they do not believe that he was the messiah, mainly because they believe the world is supposed to end with the first coming of the messiah, not the second. It would be reasonable to accept his existance because Christianity had to get started somewhere.

[aristeides]

Patina not on all of the inscription, or just not on the suspicious second half of it?

[BrooklynGOP]

Man, if you don't understand what i'm saying - i'm not even going to take the time to explain it.

There is nothing to explain. Nobody is denying that Jesus existed (will you deny that Mohammed existed?). To Jews, he's nothing more then a historical figure. Israel's Antiquities Authority deals with history. There, I broke it down for you.

[dogbyte12]

It was the suspicious second half of the inscription with no patina. Sorry for not being clearer on that.

[brownie]

I don't think the bible ever states that Mary remained a virgin AFTER the birth of Jesus. I would fell pretty bad for Joseph, her husband, if she did.

[brownie]

I don't think the bible ever states that Mary remained a virgin AFTER the birth of Jesus. I would fell pretty bad for Joseph, her husband, if she did.

[MissAmericanPie]

You want to tell me that the Jewish experts have no stake in this at all? Please, I have some swamp land for sale, you interested?

[BrooklynGOP]

You want to tell me that the Jewish experts have no stake in this at all? Please, I have some swamp land for sale, you interested?

What's their stake. Please tell me. As a Jew I would love to know.

[Mr. Lucky]

Whether Mary did, or did not, remain a perpetual virgin is a matter of scriptural interpretation and faith. The argument had been widely circulated that the newly discovered ossuary proved Mary did not remain a virgin. Now that the ossuary is known to be a fake, we're back to faith and scriptural interpretation, which is fine with me.

[MissAmericanPie]

I feel very sure that you will have a greater chance of having the Democrats praise Republican policy before you will have any of these experts give credence to any evidence contrary to their own pre-concieved notions and agendas.

Can you imagine the storm that would be created around the world and in Israel for these experts to say that it's the real deal? Ain't gonna happen.

[stuartcr]

It could very well hold someone else's bones too...how would anyone know whose bones they are? And what is the significance?

[Texaggie79]

I'm Christian and even I have no stake in this. Even if it were authentic, which apparently is not, so what? It would be a great artifact, however proving nothing. No one is denying that a human by the name of Jesus, who had many followers and was from Nazareth existed. I know of no Jews who deny that fact.

[728b]

I don't think that the stone's authenticity is that important. Faith is belief with the absence of evidence.

2 Cor 5:7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.

IMHO You nailed it on the head.

[BrooklynGOP]

I feel very sure that you will have a greater chance of having the Democrats praise Republican policy before you will have any of these experts give credence to any evidence contrary to their own pre-concieved notions and agendas.

What are these pre-concieved notions and agendas you are claiming? Nobody is claiming that Jesus did not exist. Jesus was a historical figure and Israel's Antiquities Authority deals with history and archeology. What's so hard to understand here? Let me ask you this question. Will you, as a Christian, claim that Mohammed never existed?

Can you imagine the storm that would be created around the world and in Israel for these experts to say that it's the real deal? Ain't gonna happen.

What kind of a storm would that be? The only pre-conceived notion here is yours.

[MissAmericanPie]

Not that it matters to the faith of a Christian, but the truth about the matter shouldn't be left in the hands of a limited amount of experts, there should be a second, third, and fourth opinion after examination across a broad spectrum of antiquties experts.

[Mr. Lucky]

You're just not using your imagination. There MUST be a Jewish conspiracy here. I personally suspect the Bilderberger bankers or maybe the Council on Foreign Relations.