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Woman may have founded ancient Rome
Telegraph (UK) ^ | 4/22/03 | Bruce Johnston

Posted on 04/24/2003 11:41:53 AM PDT by scouse

Woman may have founded ancient Rome
By Bruce Johnston in Rome
(Filed: 22/04/2003)

Rome celebrated its 2,756th birthday yesterday, amid claims that the city may have been founded by a Trojan woman called Roma and not, as legend has it, by Romulus.

According to Rome's Il Messaggero newspaper, a fragment of writing by the Graeco-Sicilian poet Stesichorus (638-555 BC) recounts how a woman named Roma arrived with a Trojan fleet in an idyllic place that could easily be Rome.

The scene was described as one of enchanting beauty, where before the setting sun the visitor was "enticed to dream while being caressed by the off-shore breeze".

Roma fell so in love with the spot that she conspired with the other women to burn all the ships, so that the party would have to stay. Once they were stranded, the group all agreed that they should name the place after her.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: archaeology; birthday; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; rome
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Solely for educational purposes. Story can be accesed at address shown.
1 posted on 04/24/2003 11:41:53 AM PDT by scouse
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To: scouse
Solely for educational purposes.

Politically-correct revisionist purposes, you mean. Whatta crock!

2 posted on 04/24/2003 11:43:19 AM PDT by JennysCool
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To: scouse
Woman may have founded ancient Rome

Bovine Scatology.

She couldn't have done it, cuz she's just a girl.....

3 posted on 04/24/2003 11:45:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz (c) Entertaining beautiful women since 1972 ! :^)
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To: Romulus
Say it ain't so...
4 posted on 04/24/2003 11:45:37 AM PDT by conservonator
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To: scouse
Well, Virgil did claim that Carthage, not Rome, was a Trojan offshoot (The Aeniad). But Romulus and Remus were supposedly sons of Mars and a woman named Rhea Silvia. Mars, of course, denied the whole thing and demanded a DNA test...
5 posted on 04/24/2003 11:49:38 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: scouse
Aeneas founded Rome.

http://www.dc.peachnet.edu/~shale/humanities/literature/world_literature/virgil.html

6 posted on 04/24/2003 11:50:06 AM PDT by jimkress
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To: scouse
To anyone who knows Italian women it makes sense that Rome wasn't built in a day...it was built at night.
7 posted on 04/24/2003 11:51:39 AM PDT by Lee Heggy (Spare yet effective and surprisingly well-coloured.)
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To: scouse
I bet she asked for directions.
8 posted on 04/24/2003 11:52:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: scouse
Sure, the wimmin got possessed by spirits and burned the ships. It was a rough trip for the Trojans, but they eventually got moved in.
9 posted on 04/24/2003 11:52:39 AM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: scouse
New scholarship also suggests Roma was an albino lesbian dwarf.
10 posted on 04/24/2003 11:53:01 AM PDT by Interesting Times
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To: Interesting Times
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
11 posted on 04/24/2003 11:53:36 AM PDT by Interesting Times
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To: Billthedrill
I bet you just inspired a tabloid article somewhere..
12 posted on 04/24/2003 11:53:53 AM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: Interesting Times
you forgot vegetarian.
13 posted on 04/24/2003 11:54:20 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: scouse
Roma sounds like the first broad to force her hapless husband to put all his hard earned cash into some money pit out in the sticks. What choice did he have after that but to say he loved it, since there was no going back home except as a pauper.
14 posted on 04/24/2003 11:54:49 AM PDT by ricpic
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Roma fell so in love with the spot that she conspired with the other women to burn all the ships, so that the party would have to stay. Once they were stranded, the group all agreed that they should name the place after her.

For what it's worth, this rings true. That is to say, it sounds like every italian woman I have ever known.

Sincerely,

Vinnie

;-)

15 posted on 04/24/2003 11:56:06 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: scouse
Beginning about 800 B. C. the Greeks established colonies in Italy, despite resistance from the Etruscans and from the Carthagenians (whose homeland was in North Africa) who also had a strong interest in colonizing the peninsula.

Roman tradition held that Rome was founded by Romulus in 753 B.C.; Greek authors four centuries before Christ identified the founder of Rome as Aeneas, a Trojan who led the survivors among his people to the area following their defeat in the Trojan War in 1184 B.C. Roman historians who followed tried to reconcile the conflicting stories by inventing (or adapting from old myths and legends) a series of fourteen kings who succeeded each other as rulers at Alba Longa after Aeneas and before Romulus. As Kevin Guinagh relates, these fourteen kings, " succeeded each other without incident until Amulius seized the power and banished his brother Numitor, the rightful king, killing the latter's male offspring and forcing his daughter, Rhea Silvia, into the perpetual virginity of a Vestal. However, she became the mother of twins, and though she gave out the story that the god Mars was their father, Amulius ordered her imprisoned and the children exposed to the elements. But the children, suckled by a she-wolf, were discovered and reared by a shepherd and his wife. On growing to young manhood, Romulus and Remus headed a group of comrades, slew the usurper, and restored their grandfather to power. Wishing to settle where he had grown up, Romulus left Alba Longa, founded by Ascanius, and built the city of Rome." Modern historians, of course, consider this early history to be fundamentally mythological rather than factual.

Re:
http://www.aug.edu/langlitcom/humanitiesHBK/handbook_htm/roman_history.htm
16 posted on 04/24/2003 11:56:21 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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"Hey, Roma! Thanks for taking it upon yourself to burn all our ships. Just because YOU like this place doesn't mean that we all want to live here for the rest of our lives! And maybe if you'd told us the plan, we could have unloaded our stuff from the boats. Everything I own just went up in flames because you wanted to burn the durn boats!

But I tell you what -- just to show there's no hard feelings, we're going to name the city after you."

17 posted on 04/24/2003 11:56:26 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: scouse

PS: I have trouble with this.

I can imagine a shallow grave named after her, following such a stunt.

"You burned our ships and now we're stranded? No problem.. We're so tickled about this development we will just name a whole city after you, waddya say Roma?"

18 posted on 04/24/2003 11:56:33 AM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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you forgot vegetarian.

Right. Make that a vegan albino lesbian dwarf.

19 posted on 04/24/2003 11:56:59 AM PDT by Interesting Times
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Wow.. Yue red mah mind!

You'se one of them there, "psycho's" Ain't ya?

20 posted on 04/24/2003 11:58:17 AM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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