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Public School Census -- "You Must Provide Details About Your Children!"
Letter received this afternoon | 29 October 2002 | Downingtown Area School District

Posted on 10/29/2002 11:02:24 AM PST by Malacoda

I picked up my mail this afternoon and get a heck of a surprise. A letter from the local school district!

Since I have ALREADY given my pound of flesh via school taxes and my toddler is nowhere NEAR school-age, I opened it with trepidation and curiosity. Here's what it says. I put MY commentary in italics:

"In order to forecast the needs of schools and communities, or School District is seeking your help and cooperation in taking an official census. Public school law 1351 requires that we obtain information for a census from all families living in the School District. We must receive this information from everyone living in the District. The information we receive regarding children between the ages of birth to five years helps with further planning within our District.

The School Board and Officials will appreciate your cooperation in answering this questionnaire. Please return this form in the self-addressed envelope so the District will not have to take time to call on you for this information. By answering the questionnaire and mailing it to us promptly you will be saving your School District considerable expense. If you have any questions, please call 610-873-0930, Ext. Dial 1 then 6215.

Adults in the Household: (Please print all information)
Last Name, First Name, Sex, DOB, SSN
Where employed: (for both parents)

Children in this household:
Last Name, First Name, Sex, DOB, SSN, Grade, School

Telephone Number:
Development Name:
Listed or Unlisted?
Owner Resdies Rental Vacant (Circle One)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Pennsylvania; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: governmentsnoops; homeschool; homeschoollist; indoctrination; nea; pennsylvania; publicschool; villageidotis
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This seems like some awfully personal info -- WTF do they need MY SSN for? Plus, I have absolutely NO INTENTIONS of sending my daughter to a public school. That's tantamount to child abuse in my book.

I need some creative responses/solutions to this -- mostly for laughs.

Help me, Obi Wan FReepers -- you're my only hope!

1 posted on 10/29/2002 11:02:24 AM PST by Malacoda
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To: Malacoda
1. Write in large letters "none of your business". And mail it back.

2. Shred it, and mail it back.

If enough people did this, it would put an end to their "survey".

2 posted on 10/29/2002 11:05:59 AM PST by freeeee
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To: Malacoda
Projecting how many students they may have in upcoming years, and making plans to deal with them doesn't seem like a bad idea. If your kids won't be going to public schools..... I'd say just write a ZERO on your form and send it back to them.
3 posted on 10/29/2002 11:07:26 AM PST by kjam22
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To: Malacoda
Public school law 1351 requires that we obtain information ...

It don't say nuthin' about requiring you to provide it.

4 posted on 10/29/2002 11:08:26 AM PST by CFW
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To: Malacoda
NannyState
5 posted on 10/29/2002 11:09:31 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Malacoda
If I were you, I would send a copy to the Home School Legal Defense Association (http://www.hslda.org). If your Downingtown is the Downingtown near Philadelphia, I would not be too flip in responding. My understanding is that there have been some issues with the school district out there (this, perhaps, being the most recent.)
6 posted on 10/29/2002 11:09:33 AM PST by Pete
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To: Pete
The american way is to run for the school board... and get friends of yours who think like you do elected to the school board. And then really change the system.

But it's easier and requires a lot less effort to just gripe about what they do and send in goofball answers to the survey.

7 posted on 10/29/2002 11:11:33 AM PST by kjam22
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To: Malacoda
I have absolutely NO INTENTIONS of sending my daughter to a public school.

I don't know what state you're in, but if the Superintendent of the juvenile detention facilities in your town is required by law to approve your homeschooling curriculum, then you should choose your words carefully. If not, fire away.

8 posted on 10/29/2002 11:12:15 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: Malacoda
I like others suggestions....PLUS....whenever ANYONE asks for Social Security # (except bank/employer) I write/say - only the Soc Sec Dept gets that number......
9 posted on 10/29/2002 11:13:03 AM PST by goodnesswins
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To: Malacoda
I'm surprised they didn't ask you for the race and sexual orientation of your child.
10 posted on 10/29/2002 11:14:28 AM PST by martin_fierro
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To: Malacoda
File it in the circular file cabinet...
11 posted on 10/29/2002 11:15:10 AM PST by 2banana
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To: Malacoda
I would make up fictional answers and mail it in as if nothing is amiss. This would 1) protect your privacy and 2) skew their results. Why do they need to know whether you own your home? Why do they need to know where you work? And whether your phone number is listed? This really is a bit much, deserving of Donald Duck answers.
12 posted on 10/29/2002 11:15:46 AM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: goodnesswins
Cox Cable has my social security number. I think ATT and the water company have it too. I'm really not sure why I should care if they have them. Am I to be afraid that someone of their employ is going to steal my social security benefits (I'm 43 now)? Or I guess I'm afraid that someone of their employ is going to begin pretending to be me. Either way... it requires fear on my part.
13 posted on 10/29/2002 11:16:26 AM PST by kjam22
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To: Malacoda
Perhaps the following?

Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse, DOB - 1/1/52 and 3/2/55, employer: The Disney Company. No mice yet....just co-habitating.

14 posted on 10/29/2002 11:16:45 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Malacoda
The request for information is reasonable (since they need this kind of info to project their needs for school facilities, etc.). The information about each child's SS#, and the age, employer, etc. for each parent is not needed.

They are probably trolling for financial assistance from the state and/or federal government based on their future needs. I would simply tell them that you have no children who will be attending public schools. Let them try to figure out what that means.

15 posted on 10/29/2002 11:19:05 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: 3AngelaD
Why do they need to know whether you own your home?

I didn't write the survey... but let's think just a little. Own home and child is 3. Good chance you'll still be here when the child goes to kindergarden. Rent... much less chance you'll still be here. So they could project maybe 80% chances that X number of kids will be starting school in such and such year. And maybe 40% chance that Y number will be starting?????

It doesn't have to be sinister reasons unless we just want them to be.

16 posted on 10/29/2002 11:19:28 AM PST by kjam22
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To: goodnesswins
whenever ANYONE asks for Social Security #

I say "just as soon as you tell me what our transaction has to do with me paying into SSA and/or receiving a distribution from same at my retirement".
Usually you're dealing with a minion that is required to ask for it so they can check your credit.

If the transaction has nothing to do with taxes, income withholding or retirement payments, they aren't getting it.

17 posted on 10/29/2002 11:19:32 AM PST by MrB
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Well, I just noticed that they want our "Parcel number" for the property, as well.

It's a standard form letter -- you have to fill in your address on the letter itself.

Maybe I should just trash it, and take my chances.

18 posted on 10/29/2002 11:19:42 AM PST by Malacoda
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To: Malacoda
I need some creative responses/solutions to this -- mostly for laughs.

As I told the census takers last time they came around, "There are no children at this address who are under the jurisidiction of Bedford County." The literal truth!

If you live in the city and have time to spare, consider becoming a census ennumerator yourself. You earn a few extra dollars, and can conveniently overlook any home schooling families you encounter!

19 posted on 10/29/2002 11:21:05 AM PST by TomSmedley
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To: CFW
It don't say nuthin' about requiring you to provide it.

Darn. You beat me to it. As a home school Dad, I always throw the public school census' in the trash, because that's how it's decided how much money they get.

20 posted on 10/29/2002 11:21:27 AM PST by BSunday
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