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Queen Victoria illegitimate, biographer says
The Globe and Mail ^ | 2002-09-01

Posted on 09/01/2002 6:27:36 PM PDT by Lessismore

London — A book to be published this week says that Britain's Queen Victoria may have been illegitimate, possibly undermining the whole Royal Family's legitimacy, the Sunday Times reported.

In his book The Victorians, acclaimed biographer A.N. Wilson alleges that Victoria's mother, Princess Victoire of Leiningen, had a lengthy affair with her Irish-born secretary Sir John Conroy and that he, rather than Prince Edward, the Duke of Kent, was Victoria's real father.

Buckingham Palace said it would not comment on the allegation.

Mr. Wilson based his argument partly on medical data, the newspaper said.

Records show that the illness porphyria — a hereditary disorder of body metabolism — once ran in the Royal Family, but there is no evidence that Victoria carried it or passed it to her descendants.

Mr. Wilson also writes that Victoria was a carrier for the disease hemophilia, although medical records tracing her mother's ancestors for 17 generations show no evidence of the disease, suggesting Victoria inherited it from Mr. Conroy.

But American researchers on Victoria's medical background said it was "extremely unlikely" that Mr. Conroy had been a haemophiliac, and that the disease was more likely to have resulted from a genetic mutation, the newspaper reported.

Queen Victoria's claim to the crown was through her father, the brother of William IV, who died without children. If Mr. Wilson's suggestion is true, it would challenge the right of Victoria's descendants to the throne, including the current queen, Elizabeth, her great-great-granddaughter.

If Victoria was illegitimate, Prince Ernst of Hanover — the husband of Princess Caroline of Monaco — would be the rightful claimant to the throne, according to Burke's Peerage.

"His ancestor was the Duke of Cumberland, who was Victoria's uncle (and brother of William IV)," Harold Brooks-Baker, publishing director of Burke's Peerage, said.

Mr. Brooks-Baker said he did not believe the claims of illegitimacy in the book and said it was doubtful Queen Victoria's remains would ever be made available for DNA testing.


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To: Sam Cree; Lessismore
Well, I think this is, like, "who cares" anyway.

I disagree. I think the whole thing could be fascinating. There was a "rush" so to speak to produce an heir which turned out to be Victoria.

But the implications of the hemophilia go beyond that. Victoria's great-great-grandson Alexis, son of Czar Nicholas and Alexandra (Victoria's grandaughter) was a hemophiliac. Doctors could do nothing for him, but Rasputin could and that's how he gained the confidence of Nicholas and Alexandra.

Victoria was also the grandmother of Kaiser Wilhelm.

It's pure speculation of course. But I think it's fascinating if you consider that the Kaiser and Alexandra (thus Rasputin) would not have been in the picture.

21 posted on 09/01/2002 10:27:42 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Lessismore
A book to be published this week says that Britain's Queen Victoria may have been illegitimate, possibly undermining the whole Royal Family's legitimacy

Gee, can I survive such earth shattering news....

22 posted on 09/01/2002 10:33:49 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: Lessismore
It won't effect the legitimacy of the royal family. William the Conqueror was illegitimate too don'tcha know.
23 posted on 09/01/2002 11:34:34 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Lessismore
the illness porphyria — a hereditary disorder of body metabolism — once ran in the Royal Family

Porphyria is the illness mentioned in The Madness of King George -- the illness that drove him insane and turned his pee pea green, if I remember correctly from the movie.

-- "One may produce a copious, regular evacuation every day of the week and still be a stranger to reason."

24 posted on 09/01/2002 11:43:55 PM PDT by paulklenk
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To: Utopia
There was a heck of a good book written about the death of Napoleon a few years ago. The author surmised that Napoleon was slowly poisoned through his wine by arsenic put there by an agent of the Bourbon monarchy, to ensure that there was no chance of his escaping from St. Helena.

Regards,

25 posted on 09/02/2002 6:45:56 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine
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To: x
I refer you to certain precincts in Appalachia and the Ozarks, where "close" breeding results in some very nasty recessive traits surfacing.
26 posted on 09/02/2002 6:53:23 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine
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To: Lessismore
You don't have to dig her up or even do DNA testing. Just look at the pictures and paintings of her through her life--By her own admission she thought she had inherited the ugliness of the Hanovers...she looks just like her father the duke of whatever.
27 posted on 09/02/2002 7:33:56 AM PDT by soozer47
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To: Corin Stormhands
OK, point conceded.
28 posted on 09/02/2002 7:38:07 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree
OK, point conceded.

Well, that said, it is sort of a Jerry Springer / Trailer-trash with jewelry sort of fascination...

29 posted on 09/02/2002 9:04:24 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
The public does seem to have an endless fascination with the personal lives of the royal family.

'Course, the family seems to provide plenty of fodder for the tabloids.

30 posted on 09/02/2002 9:08:37 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Lessismore; MadIvan
Hmmm, more arguments for an american style republic with checks and balances.
31 posted on 09/02/2002 9:59:04 AM PDT by Cacique
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To: Lessismore
Thought that British censors existed so that we would all be shielded from this kind of stuff ;-].
32 posted on 09/02/2002 10:08:15 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: Cacique
"Hmmm, more arguments for an american style republic with checks and balances."

I keep writing the checks, sending them to Washington, and NOTHING seems to balance down there ... where do you live? LOL &;-)

33 posted on 09/02/2002 10:13:01 AM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: Cacique
Hmmm, more arguments for an american style republic with checks and balances.

How so? Her Majesty serves at the pleasure of the people of Britain anyway. Should she displease us, out she goes. As Charles I amply demonstrated.

Regards, Ivan

34 posted on 09/02/2002 11:07:54 AM PDT by MadIvan
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Note: this topic is from 9/01/2002. Cue the Debby McClatchy (99% sure no one will get that, or even see that). Thanks Lessismore.

35 posted on 11/15/2015 10:33:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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