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So far, the GOP is not giving conservatives reasons to vote on November 5th
Enter Stage Right ^ | July 15, 2002 | Paul M. Weyrich

Posted on 07/15/2002 10:28:18 AM PDT by gordgekko

Maybe I am totally off base, and probably I should keep my views to myself, but I sense a Democratic victory in Congress in the making. It is true that President George W. Bush still has sky high ratings among the electorate. They see him as someone who thinks like they do. No matter what issues the Democrats throw at the President, nothing sticks to him. They used to call Ronald Reagan the Teflon President, but if Bush continues these ratings into 2004, he will do Reagan one better.

The Bush ratings do not apply to his party, however. In fact, several recent polls find that while the average voter believes that Bush is on the side of the average voter, Republicans in general are seen as being more interested in the welfare of corporate bigwigs. If Democrat strategists are able to take advantage of this voter perception they will hold on to the Senate, but will win control of the House as well. Republican strategists already concede gains in the gubernatorial realm. They are defending many more state houses than the Democrats.

One of the problems for Republicans in Congress is that grass roots conservatives don't feel that the party is willing to raise issues they care about. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals' decision removing God from the pledge of allegiance and a New York federal judge's decision to release a terrorist are good arguments for confirming President Bush judicial nominees. It is unclear if the party is willing to make this a burning issue because the judge who wrote the pledge opinion was a Republican appointee. If the judiciary becomes a really credible issue, it does have the opportunity to arouse some voters.

One issue that would really stir the grass roots is immigration. Look at what has happened in Western Europe. Eleven of 14 Members of the European Economic Community now have right of center governments. And it is possible that total will be 12 this fall if German voters go the way the polls are now suggesting. Immigration was one of the key issues that brought those right of center governments to power. Even the Dutch government intends to curb the liberal lifestyle in that country. The problem is that President Bush has a fundamental disagreement with Representative Tom Tancredo (R-CO) whose views on immigration resonate well with the grass roots. So immigration will not be made an issue by the Republican Party or if it is it will be in the form of President Bush's outreach to the Hispanic community.

Another issue that stirs the grass roots is the Boy Scout issue. The Boy Scouts have lost millions and have also lost the right to use many public facilities because they refuse to permit homosexual scout masters. The grass roots are all with the Scouts. The party could win seats in the South, Midwest and even Southwest if the party made this an issue. But it is unlikely the party will raise this issue because the Bush Administration has made an outreach to the homosexual community. Just recently, the president signed a bill providing some benefits to same sex partners who were victims of the New York disaster on September 11th.

The Supreme Court's decision on vouchers thrilled most conservatives. This decision is very popular in minority communities where school children are trapped in failing education institutions. However vouchers are not popular in suburban communities. The issue has been defeated in Congress by suburban Republicans. Voters from the suburbs have defeated vouchers when they were on state ballots. So while the party might make this an issue and grass roots conservatives would like it, the suburban Republicans who are part of the Bush coalition might well revolt.

The voters and even some in the grass roots have turned on to the privacy issues. A year ago, in the wake of 9/11, they were willing to support intrusions into their privacy in the interest of safety. Attorney General John Ashcroft was once the darling of grass roots conservatives. He is now seen as the enemy of the Fourth Amendment and impatience with Big Brother security measures grows, especially among grass roots activists. But privacy will not be an issue with the voters at-large this fall.

That is why it is possible that the Democrats will make gains. The Republicans may not raise any issues that will get grass roots conservatives to the polls. In 1994 these conservatives constituted 37 percent of the vote. In 2000, they constituted only 31 percent of the vote. If they drop another percentage or two, Republicans will lose, and could lose big.

We shall see if Democrats are smart enough to turn voter perception about the Republican-Big Business connection into an issue that resonates with the average voter. Thus far they have proved remarkably inept in their efforts to develop issues against President Bush. It could be they will miss what for them is a golden opportunity. However, if they get their act together, President Bush will be dealing with a Democrat Congress for the two years before he has to face the voters. If what has happened in the Senate this past year is any guide, the president will get nothing conservative through the Congress. He will only win if he compromises with the liberals. Then the Democrats will say he is a do nothing president.

Paul M. Weyrich is president of the Free Congress Foundation.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: georgewbush; midtermelections; republicans
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To: Dane
What and actually use their thought processes rather than blurting knee jerk responses.

My bad. You're right. Bad, rdb3! Bad boy! ;-)

That would be asking a bit much, wouldn't it?

121 posted on 07/15/2002 1:04:32 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: habs4ever
Plenty of worthless assumptions in your posts, Saber.Nice to know you have the pulse of a "large" block of voters.They ALL dial you up to give you the dirt??

How about going out on a limb and specifying which of my assumptions you find worthless, and why?




122 posted on 07/15/2002 1:05:45 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: College Repub
Do you honestly believe that there are no differences between the two parties?

When the GOP canidate and the DEM POTUS canidate debate and the GOP canidate plainly states that there is really not that much difference between what he and the DEM canidate believe what are we supposed to think? No the difference between the two if any is getting mighty thin indeed.

123 posted on 07/15/2002 1:05:53 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: sinkspur
Your post is funny. You say that polls are unreliable (actually, they're quite reliable), yet you use one that reflects negatively on Bush as if it were gospel.

Glad you enjoyed it. Just answering kind with kind, since polls were your criteria. As far as the reliability of polls, you might want to read "Mobocracy" by Matthew Robinson (a conservative, BTW). Polls have degenerated into not much more than propaganda tools (9 out of 10 people can't be wrong!) used more to sway public opinion than to report on it, and the RNC is not immune.

124 posted on 07/15/2002 1:07:11 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: rdb3
YOU are the one talking about affirmative action and stuff, not me.

Correct, because this is my example of what I consider "pandering." Or an example of it, there are legion which have nothign to do with race.

I'm simply using the evidence here at FR. I'm not talking about an actual plan or policy submitted by the GOP, either. I'm talking about when a thread talks about convincing American blacks to vote for the GOP instead of the dims. Many FReepers become fit to be tied in these threads.

I would love to see. I have not yet seen a policy or plan that was not pandering.

Tell you what. I'm going to keep you in mind for the next time I see this, then I'll ping you to it.

Please do, if things are as xenophobic as you describe, then I would like to distance myself from them. I was speaking only of policies that are clear pandering.

Lastly and again, I didn't say anything about preference policies or handouts. You did.

You are correct.

SD

125 posted on 07/15/2002 1:09:43 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: ThomasJefferson
Denial is a confortable place to hide. Shooting the messenger helps you to stay in denial.

Oh, put a sock in it, Tom! Waiting for everything to suit you before you vote is a mighty good excuse for sitting on your duff and doing nothing...and feeling self-righeous about doing nothing. It's very soothing to the psyche, I'm sure, but...no thanks!

126 posted on 07/15/2002 1:13:41 PM PDT by wimpycat
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To: rdb3
Is your powder dry?

Yes, but it's not necessary yet. The numbers of people who want something other than what is being offered currently is growing rapidly. How they will express themselves is anyones guess.

In the mean time, I guess it's a good idea to deride anyone who offers a different choice.

If the Republican party doesn't differentiate itself pretty soon, it is finished.

127 posted on 07/15/2002 1:14:10 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Sabertooth
What Conservatives are up against....

 


128 posted on 07/15/2002 1:15:11 PM PDT by Registered
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To: wimpycat
I do more than you do, I'll bet.

Dicking around on the internet is what most of those here concider "doing something". Good luck

129 posted on 07/15/2002 1:15:57 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Coop
*If hardliners don't vote GOP, and Bush's strategy fails to take the Senate or even loses the House this year... whose responsibility would that be?

**Ultimately it would fall to the GOP leaders, including President Bush.

That's all I'm saying. I hope that Republicans control both the House and Senate. At this point I intend to vote GOP this Fall, but win or lose, the responsibility for the results of the President's strategy will rest with him.

I've seen far too many in this forum blame the voters for President Bush 41 losing to Clinton in '92. Although I voted for him, I blame him for losing those voters. No one's vote is the birthright of any politician.




130 posted on 07/15/2002 1:16:27 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: rdb3
Me too.

I see the difference everyday, especially here in L.A.

Maybe those "principled" conservatives have that Yuppie eye sight problem that only allows them to see the virtues of dippy, unelectable, nothing-to-lose, third party, fringe folks.

I remember those people screaming about Richard Riordan being a RINO, sellout, country club Republican. Now that Bill Simon is the candidate, he's having to moderate and water down his previous statements. Haven't heard much from the true, principled folks.

131 posted on 07/15/2002 1:17:49 PM PDT by Deb
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To: ThomasJefferson
Yes, but it's not necessary yet.

To get all that you want, yes it is.

132 posted on 07/15/2002 1:20:28 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: gordgekko
AMEN!
133 posted on 07/15/2002 1:21:06 PM PDT by gunnedah
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To: habs4ever
Didn't Paul say we were all doomed and he was dropping out?

I don't remember the Reagan stuff. I was probably busy playing with my Barbie.

134 posted on 07/15/2002 1:22:40 PM PDT by Deb
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To: ThomasJefferson
Well, I'm not one of those people you were referring to. The only action that counts, in the end, is pulling the lever for one candidate over another. If you're campaigning for a third party candidate, more power to you. If you're actively encouraging people to vote (for whomever) you're doing a good thing.
135 posted on 07/15/2002 1:23:04 PM PDT by wimpycat
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To: browardchad
Polls have degenerated into not much more than propaganda tools (9 out of 10 people can't be wrong!) used more to sway public opinion than to report on it, and the RNC is not immune.

Of course, one must look at the wording of questions used in polls. But polls, whatever their ultimate use, are scientifically reflective of whatever they are trying to measure.

I am speaking, of course, of polls done by professional polling firms, and not the idiotic internet variety which are basically used as a vehicle for web hits.

136 posted on 07/15/2002 1:23:39 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Deb
Didn't Paul say we were all doomed and he was dropping out?

You are right, he said that during impeachment, and his article was textbook pious and smarmy "conservatism".

If he teaches at all his introductory course should be called, "Wingnut kneejerkism 101", IMHO.

137 posted on 07/15/2002 1:31:32 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Deb
"...eye sight problem that only allows them to see the virtues of dippy, unelectable, nothing-to-lose, third party, fringe folks.

As opposed to the party faithful who see the virtues of having "their" team out democrat the democrats to ensure their re-election so they can out democrat the democrats in order to ensure re-election in the next election.....

The end result of this plan is obvious.

Democrats are bolsheviks.

Republicans are mensheviks.

Same goal, different rhetoric.

Regards

J.R.

138 posted on 07/15/2002 1:32:27 PM PDT by NMC EXP
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To: Registered
Wow..

That's brilliant. That's the best picture I have seen you do yet.

(It's also very clever.. eg: the "smudges" on the keyboard)

BUT, I have my own reason to vote in November. I want OUR SENTATE (and it is our Senate, hijacked from us by Judas Jeffords of Vermont) back.

So, I will be voting Republican on that day. Regardless if we win it back or not though, I expect to see a policy shift after the elections. Otherwise, I will simply write Dubya up as a slightly right leaning moderate and abandon any hope of him mending his ways.

Thus, for now I am left with a vain hope that this is all some "master plan" to just flat buy our Senate back. I guess I have to convince myself of that because the other option is that he's been acting on principle all this time... and that's just too depressing a prospect for me to face.

(that picture just looks so real.. wow... amazing.)

139 posted on 07/15/2002 1:32:43 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: gordgekko
Can you Name me three conservatives that are in the Republican party?
140 posted on 07/15/2002 1:33:44 PM PDT by PatriotReporter
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