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Asia the home of primate ancestors
The Times of London ^ | March 15, 2002 | By Mark Henderson

Posted on 03/14/2002 2:48:49 PM PST by Map Kernow

THE deepest roots of the human family tree may not lie in Africa, where modern man is known to have evolved, but in Asia, scientists have found.

The origins of the first primates — the mammalian order to which mankind belongs — have been traced to Asia by American, Chinese and Japanese researchers.

Investigations at a fossil bed known as the Lingcha Formation, in South China, and comparisons with similar sites in Europe and North America have revealed that several orders of mammals have a much more ancient lineage in Asia than on the other continents, according to a study in the journal Science today.

As well as the primates, hooved mammals such as the artiodactyls (which include sheep, cows and deer) and the perissodactyls, (horses, rhinos and tapirs), and an extinct family of dog-like predators probably all evolved in Asia, the scientists found. They developed 55 million years ago, during a period of abrupt global warming.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: anthropology; asia; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; primate
Ex oriente lux. Et homo.
1 posted on 03/14/2002 2:48:50 PM PST by Map Kernow
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2 posted on 03/14/2002 2:49:19 PM PST by Map Kernow
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To: Map Kernow
This is going to upset the "diversity" pimps and their school book cronies who have been extolling the Africa origin of the species.

I can hear it now..."You stole mathmatics from us, you stole flying from us, now you steal origin from us.." and on and on and on

3 posted on 03/14/2002 3:44:56 PM PST by leadhead
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An anthropologist named Wolpoff has maintained for years a theory of human origins called the "multiregional origins" theory, in opposition to the "out of Africa" hypothesis. I'm not saying there isn't evidence to support the latter theory, but I think there's also pressure which I can only describe as "political" for anthropologists to validate it as well. This latest report should bolster Wolpoff's position.
4 posted on 03/14/2002 3:51:25 PM PST by Map Kernow
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"This latest report should bolster Wolpoff's position."

IMO, Wolpoff is correct and most of the recent published data and opinions have 'pretty much' supported his position, 'Multiregionalism.'

5 posted on 03/14/2002 4:26:55 PM PST by blam
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The rest of the animal kingdom presumedly evolved at the same time as the ape lines, so it might be of value to trace other species as well. Especially the mammals that migrated to North America since 55 million years ago.
6 posted on 03/14/2002 4:37:11 PM PST by RightWhale
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"The rest of the animal kingdom presumedly evolved at the same time as the ape lines, so it might be of value to trace other species as well."

Maybe, 'mans best friend,' the dog. I've read studies (DNA) that indicate the domesticated dog was 'tamed' from the wolf at least four different times and as long ago as 14k years. (I suspect longer.)

7 posted on 03/14/2002 4:54:35 PM PST by blam
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8 posted on 03/14/2002 4:54:56 PM PST by Bob J
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9 posted on 03/14/2002 4:59:54 PM PST by blam
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Thanks for the post.
10 posted on 03/14/2002 5:01:58 PM PST by Cool Guy
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"Thanks for the post."

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11 posted on 03/14/2002 5:04:23 PM PST by blam
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Thanks for the ping.
12 posted on 03/14/2002 5:05:34 PM PST by farmfriend
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13 posted on 03/14/2002 5:30:20 PM PST by Cool Guy
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There used to be horses in America, 300,000 years ago. That is recent compared to 55 million years, but early man might have followed the herds, horses and game animals as they migrated from Asia. Maybe man drove them over here.
15 posted on 03/14/2002 7:58:06 PM PST by RightWhale
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About 30 years ago a book The Descent of Woman by the following author failed to make a case against the savannah theory of hominid evolution. The book linked below continues that struggle. The Aquatic Ape theory is at least somewhat respectible now, but there's so much in the way of politics involved that I can't get fired up about it. The info about the baboon virus was in this book (previously I'd been unaware of it). Quote follows the URL.
The Scars of Evolution
by Elaine Morgan
"The most remarkable aspect of Todaro's discovery emerged when he examined Homo Sapiens for the 'baboon marker'. It was not there... Todaro drew one firm conclusion. 'The ancestors of man did not develop in a geographical area where they would have been in contact with the baboon. I would argue that the data we are presenting imply a non-African origin of man millions of years ago.'"
Morgan obviously uses this to buttress her Aquatic Ape theory, since the area where (in her view) hominids turned to Homo Sapiens was in a supposedly isolated chunk of eastern Africa, temporarily separated from the mainland by open water. It was a nice safe place, free of predators, and the hominids just lucked out when the land split.

Without a catastrophic split, such a paradise is untenable. And probably is anyway. But this point about the virus is worth pondering.

16 posted on 08/09/2004 9:01:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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17 posted on 02/21/2006 8:49:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The love of learning, the sequestered nooks, And all the sweet serenity of books. (Longfellow))
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The origins of the first primates -- the mammalian order to which mankind belongs -- have been traced to Asia by American, Chinese and Japanese researchers. Investigations at a fossil bed known as the Lingcha Formation, in South China, and comparisons with similar sites in Europe and North America have revealed that several orders of mammals have a much more ancient lineage in Asia than on the other continents, according to a study in the journal Science today. As well as the primates, hooved mammals such as the artiodactyls (which include sheep, cows and deer) and the perissodactyls, (horses, rhinos and tapirs), and an extinct family of dog-like predators probably all evolved in Asia, the scientists found. They developed 55 million years ago, during a period of abrupt global warming.
I was just doing some sort work on the "homoerectus" and "anthropology" keywords, and this old topic reemerged. :')

Just an update to the GGG info.

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18 posted on 05/28/2009 12:13:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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