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To: thegagline

He might be a ascending but he doesn’t ascend to the level of being an Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen. He’s not one. His parents weren’t naturalized citizens when he was born.


3 posted on 07/26/2023 1:33:58 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

This issue of natural born citizenship comes up a lot on Free Republic.

Some Freepers say, that both of your parents must have been citizens at the time of your birth, for you to be a natural born citizen.

Other Freepers say, that if you were born in America, you are a natural born citizen, regardless of the citizenship of your parents. Those Freepers say that you are natural born, if you didn’t have to go through the naturalization process, to become an American citizen.

And then other Freepers say, as a practical matter, no court ruling will ever prevent an American citizen born in America from running for president. Those Freepers take the position, that the courts will never intervene to prevent anyone from running for office, if they are American by birth.

Which Freepers are we to believe?


8 posted on 07/26/2023 1:40:07 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Macho MAGA Man

AGREED

PLEASE HELP ME KEEP THIS IN FRONT OF OTHER FREEPERS.


23 posted on 07/26/2023 1:54:47 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Macho MAGA Man

that is what i needed to know about the guy TRUMP 2024!


24 posted on 07/26/2023 1:54:54 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Macho MAGA Man

According to the Supreme Court he is.


25 posted on 07/26/2023 1:54:59 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Macho MAGA Man
He might be a ascending but he doesn’t ascend to the level of being an Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen. He’s not one. His parents weren’t naturalized citizens when he was born.

That horse left the barn 15 years ago. I yield to no man in love of the Constitution, but if the other side is going to get to nominate whomever they wish on the basis of winning, then we have to accept their rules of engagement.

I do not plan to vote for Ramaswamy, but for different reasons.

27 posted on 07/26/2023 1:56:34 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I couldn’t agree more. It’s sad when Democrats turn their backs on the Constitution when it gets in the way of their ambitions. It is heartbreaking when a Republican tries to do the same thing.

Any first-year law student who studies statutory
construction knows that a general clause, such as the 14th Amendment Citizenship clause, cannot govern a specific clause, such as the natural-born citizen clause of
Article II. They also know that each and every word in the U.S. Constitution has a specific meaning. Unless Congress has specifically stated “all citizens at birth
are natural born citizens, “the court MUST give each clause a separate legal effect.

In this case, the difference between natural-born citizens and statutory citizens is those born to citizen parents and those that are not.


33 posted on 07/26/2023 2:02:03 PM PDT by batazoid (Plainclothes cop at Capital during Jan 6 riot...)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

And the Supreme Court had already ruled on your argument years ago. You are wrong


50 posted on 07/26/2023 2:20:15 PM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

“natural born Citizen. He’s not one”

Agreed.
Failing Florida Man ain’t t neither.
Born 1978. Mom Naturalized in 1983.

Guess who’s Natural Born a business success, and NOT a descendent of former Slave owners?

Our PDJT, The GOAT.

Roll MAGA, roll!


53 posted on 07/26/2023 2:22:37 PM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
His parents weren’t naturalized citizens when he was born.

Totally irrelevant, Vivek was born in the United states and that's all that is required.

Maybe you can explain how Kamala Harris and Bobby Jindahl were able to run for office when their parents weren't naturalized citizens.

The Original Meaning of "Subject to the Jurisdiction" of the United States

Birthright Citizenship and the Constitution

84 posted on 07/26/2023 2:42:53 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Wrong, but you are wrong about most things


92 posted on 07/26/2023 2:46:20 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

He might be a ascending but he doesn’t ascend to the level of being an Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen. He’s not one. His parents weren’t naturalized citizens when he was born.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...
Wasn’t that qualification thrown under the bus in ‘08?


111 posted on 07/26/2023 2:59:39 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Current POPE and POTUS: corrupt, ignorant, paranoid, angry, deeply hateful, and deeply despised.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
He might be a ascending but he doesn’t ascend to the level of being an Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen. He’s not one. His parents weren’t naturalized citizens when he was born.

He was born in the United States and therefore is a natural born citizen. See 2 United States Supreme Court decisions:
United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) and Weedin v. Chin Bow, 274 U.S. 657 (1927)

117 posted on 07/26/2023 3:10:37 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Applying Euorpean rules to the US is unAmerican. Go back to Europe if you like it so much.


119 posted on 07/26/2023 3:16:18 PM PDT by spintreebob (ki .h g)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Obama’s dad was naturalized?


120 posted on 07/26/2023 3:20:25 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians are there to build wealth. Trump is in sprinthere to lose wealth to serve people.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

He was born in Cincinnati. So he can run.


152 posted on 07/26/2023 4:03:43 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Macho MAGA Man

He might be a ascending but he doesn’t ascend to the level of being an Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen. He’s not one. His parents weren’t naturalized citizens when he was born.>>> When were they naturalized? I’ve looked and can’t find anything.


211 posted on 07/26/2023 8:34:44 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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