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Report: 1 in 4 Electric Vehicle Charging Stations in San Francisco Out of Order
Breitbart ^ | 05/08/2022 | Joel B Pollack

Posted on 05/08/2022 6:25:17 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

One in four public electric vehicle charging stations in the San Francisco Bay Area does not work, according to a new study.

The report, produced by David Rempel of the University of California at Berkeley, suggested that while California — especially the Bay Area — is trying to make the shift to electric vehicles in a hurry, the current infrastructure is not ready.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: automotive; california; charging; electric; sizzlers; stations; vehicle
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To: ChicagoConservative27
public electric vehicle charging stations

"Public" is the key word. That means government. It is time to fully change the vocabulary. The left does it all the time, but we don't have to be confusing about it. Many of us say government schools, instead of public schools. Yes, there is a negative connotation. There should be. Government schools are failures. There should be a negative connotation to government electric vehicle charging stations too.

Government things usually don't work, and when they do they are expensive. Anything built by government these days isn't fully paid by tax dollars. The Fed has to print money (quantitative easing) that it does not have. That leads to inflation. Thus, anything government builds doesn't work and causes inflation. That hurts you and me.

Additionally, many things government builds are actually contracted to so-called private businesses. That is not necessarily the case. They are political donor sink holes, many that do not even turn a profit. Real businesses make a profit. The effect of that is government picks winners and other legitimate businesses lose.

Marketplace loses because government creates unfair competition which limits new and better products. That means you lose because other competing products.

So everyone that wants this EV crap can take their EV charging connector and plug it into their arses.

21 posted on 05/08/2022 7:19:18 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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To: ChicagoConservative27; All

As a side note, EV charging stations possibly another front-end for unaccountable government funding.

In other words, there was possibly never a maintenance plan.


22 posted on 05/08/2022 7:25:43 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Wow, a whole new alphabet soup to learn!
electric vehicles (EV)...the charging system for 657 EVSE (electric vehicle service equipment) CCS connectors (combined charging system) on all 181 open, public DCFC (direct current fast chargers).
Allow me to interpret and simplify: The DCFC EVSE CCSs charging the EVs don't work.
23 posted on 05/08/2022 7:28:35 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (Instead of criminalizing guns, we need to criminalize criminals.)
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To: ronnie raygun

I saw that pic. The diesel back up generator next to the charging station. Not sure how someone would conclude that the generator was for the charging station instead of the building.


24 posted on 05/08/2022 7:39:17 AM PDT by brianl703
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If you are using a EV to commute. You charge it overnight and you are fine for the day to go to work, hit the store on the way back home.

Extended road trips there you either benefit or get hamstrung with EVs.

Tesla still has the largest and most reliable charging network and its growing

Charge America is the 2nd largest network and they are not as reliable

Charge stations at the office is overkill as commuter will not need it.

Just make sure if you get a EV the range is at a minimum 2x the distance of your commute from home to work and back.


25 posted on 05/08/2022 9:26:22 AM PDT by TheShaz
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“the current infrastructure is not ready”

Not only a pun on words but the statement is true, especially in California.


26 posted on 05/08/2022 9:36:35 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: dangus

First, understand I own an EV.

For battery life only charge to 90% and don’t let it go below 20%. That leaves you 210 miles if conditions are perfect. Where I live we have winters and hills. When the temperature was below freezing my range went down by 25% or more.

And Tesla overstates the range anyway, so real world drop another 10%.


27 posted on 05/08/2022 10:41:21 AM PDT by jdsteel (Do I really need a /sarc?)
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To: dangus

Hydrofluoric acid: the chemical hazard hiding in electric and hybrid vehicle batteries
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4061190/posts

Imagine millions of batteries leaking in landfills or in your car.
Electric cars are a fire hazard and will dissolve you too : )

FTA: A colourless liquid, hydrofluoric acid is highly corrosive – it can dissolve glass! – and is extremely toxic.


28 posted on 05/08/2022 11:11:31 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Blurb2350

#16 How many amps in that water? !


29 posted on 05/08/2022 11:13:04 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: dangus
Depends on the car. A Leaf’s range is only 150 miles.

Leaf's sold since 2018 can do 226 mile range. Plenty to commute in.

30 posted on 05/08/2022 11:28:17 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: ChicagoConservative27

"Go ahead... make my day!"

-PJ

31 posted on 05/08/2022 11:31:31 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: LuxAerterna
When I was there last fall, it was an odyssey just finding a public restroom with a working toilet.

Most public restrooms in SF are shut down, or used by homeless and drug addicts. There are good public restrooms along the west ocean beach side (GG Park, Great Highway etc.); good meaning clean, safe and well-maintained. Don't bother looking for one downtown, instead go in a restaurant and use their facilities.

32 posted on 05/08/2022 11:33:41 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: minnesota_bound

I’d love to have seen the luddites around here when they read their horses are going to be replaced by engines powered by gasoline explosions. (What, FR was around 100 years ago, wasn’t it?) There will never be landfills filled with lithium batteries. Recycled lithium batteries last longer than even new ones, but require vast economies of scale to be most profitable.

Recycled batteries have superior performance to new batteries:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/recycled-lithium-ion-batteries-can-perform-better-than-new-ones/

At current mineral prices, lithium battery recycling will depend on economies of scale, transportation.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589004221007550

Value of recycled battery materials is $42/kwh for newer types of lithium batteries:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1246828/value-of-recycled-ev-batteries-by-battery-type/

Price of recycled batteries is even higher than for new batteries:
https://circularenergystorage.com/articles/2021/1/15/prices-for-used-batteries-are-higher-than-for-new-batteries-this-is-why


33 posted on 05/08/2022 1:16:14 PM PDT by dangus (I had some sympathies for some of Russia's positions... until they started a G-d-damned war.)
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To: TheShaz

Charge stations at work is how electricity companies can manage the “duck tail,” the problem with solar energy caused by the fact that peak demand is 3 hours later than peak supply.


34 posted on 05/08/2022 1:20:04 PM PDT by dangus (I had some sympathies for some of Russia's positions... until they started a G-d-damned war.)
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To: dinodino

If you want a response to your post, just tell the postee that they obviously didn’t read before posting.

Works every time.

From the article: “The San Francisco Chronicle, reporting on the study results, notes that it did not include Tesla vehicle charging stations in its survey, since those are only usable to drivers who own Tesla vehicles.”

Imagine if Ford vehicles couldn’t fuel from gas stations for GM vehicles.


35 posted on 05/08/2022 2:20:59 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: dangus

There were electric cars back then. Gas & diesel motors won.


36 posted on 05/08/2022 2:27:59 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: dangus

How long does it take to charge an electric car? I can fill up my car with gas in minutes...


37 posted on 05/08/2022 2:30:28 PM PDT by GOPJ (Biden's motto "America Last". If YOU object you're labeled 'domestic terrorist' and put on a list.)
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To: Jacquerie

What’s your point?


38 posted on 05/08/2022 2:51:03 PM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: GOPJ

30 minutes for a 90% charge. That’s why I reference taking a meal break.


39 posted on 05/08/2022 3:33:09 PM PDT by dangus (I had some sympathies for some of Russia's positions... until they started a G-d-damned war.)
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To: dinodino

My point is apparently well beyond your intellect.


40 posted on 05/08/2022 3:55:01 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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