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How to drive fossil fuels out of the US economy, quickly The US has everything it needs to decarbonize by 2035.
vox.com ^ | 8/6/2020 | Dave Roberts

Posted on 08/10/2020 9:50:04 PM PDT by rktman

In the runup to World War II, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt enlisted the entire US economy in an effort to scale up production of war material. All of the country’s resources were bent to the task. In 1939, the US had 1,700 aircraft; in 1945, it had 300,000 military aircraft and 18,500 B–24 bombers.

By the time the war was won, the economy was up and humming with a massively expanded workforce (drawing in women and African Americans) and turbocharged productive capacity. Investments made during the war mobilization yielded a robust middle class and decades of sustained, broadly shared prosperity.

A similar mobilization will be necessary for the US to decarbonize its economy fast enough to avert the worst of climate change. To do its part in limiting global temperature rise to between 1.5° and 2° Celsius, the US must reach net-zero carbon emissions by 2050 at the latest. To achieve this, the full resources of the US economy must be bent toward manufacturing the needed clean-energy technology and infrastructure.

FDR began with two questions. First, he asked not what was politically feasible but what was necessary to win the war. He also asked not how much funding was available in the federal budget but how much productive capacity was available in the economy — what was possible.

Saul Griffith is trying to answer those same questions on climate change: what is necessary, given the trajectory of global warming, and what is possible, given the resources in the US economy.

(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...


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To: roadcat
........ FDR got way too much credit for our postwar growth, while he was largely to blame for prolonging the depression.

VERY TRUE
Bears Repeating!

21 posted on 08/10/2020 10:36:59 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: rktman

What do I put in the Hemi?

Crisco??


22 posted on 08/10/2020 10:38:41 PM PDT by Salamander (Flying Colours....)
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To: rktman

Oh, shit...who left the cage door open again??


23 posted on 08/10/2020 10:39:20 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: rktman

The operation where they cut off the top of Dave Roberts’ skull, scooped out his brains, and then shat in the newly-empty space before sewing it up must have been cringe-worthy to watch....


24 posted on 08/10/2020 10:40:59 PM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: Paladin2
May the odds [and the winds] be ever in your favor.


25 posted on 08/10/2020 10:41:24 PM PDT by Salamander (Flying Colours....)
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To: noiseman
Liberals’ Teslas can’t move one inch without petroleum. What do they think tires are made of? There are thousands of essential products made from petroleum-derived hydrocarbons. So-called “fossil fuels” are essential to everyday life, even if we never used another drop as fuel. So, libs can never get rid of them, but what the fools can do is make all of the petroleum-derived products we use (plastic, anyone?) vastly more expensive.

Dave Roberts would soil himself if someone filled his gas tank with corn syrup...

26 posted on 08/10/2020 10:44:25 PM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: Salamander

LOL, I’d stick that out the window to charge “stuff”

It’d be like a dawg having movin’ fun.

[I’ll stipulate that having some eye salve is warranted should one try to emulate the dog on the train [[and other vehicles.... [Because personal experience....]]


27 posted on 08/10/2020 10:47:54 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: rktman

It’s all about the BTUs. Oil / Natural Gas are Kings.


28 posted on 08/10/2020 10:49:19 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: noiseman
Liberals’ Teslas can’t move one inch without petroleum. What do they think tires are made of?

And roads. and about 6500 other products from petroleum processing. No oil, no paved roads. No paint. No lubricants. No insulation. And so on...

29 posted on 08/10/2020 10:49:27 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: rktman
Decarbonize the economy huh?
To what end?
Reduce America to abject poverty and bring in even more riots, looting and anarchy?
30 posted on 08/10/2020 11:00:13 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: rktman
They aren’t idiots. They know exactly what they are proposing. This heading from the article explains it:

There’s no way to accomplish a rapid energy transition with market-based policies

The “transformation” will be accomplished through Soviet-style five-year plans. Which is, of course, the point of all this.

31 posted on 08/10/2020 11:04:48 PM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: rktman

Vox Sox!


32 posted on 08/10/2020 11:30:17 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: rktman; All

Well first of all, anyone who refers to petroleum as a “fossil fuel” is a flaming moron. The unwashed have no idea how many products rely on petroleum.


33 posted on 08/10/2020 11:31:58 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: rktman

vox.com...that’s all I need to know.


34 posted on 08/10/2020 11:53:50 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Thud

In a pinch, we could always go back whale oil.


35 posted on 08/11/2020 12:04:04 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: rktman

A similar effort, huh? Does this idiot author even begin to comprehend the enormous economic sacrifices most US families made as part of the war effort? And he wants to try to implement & sustain that for 30 years? OMG!


36 posted on 08/11/2020 12:21:15 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: rktman

Who needs petroleum? All those electric cars will be powered by rainbows and unicorn farts.


37 posted on 08/11/2020 12:27:19 AM PDT by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
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To: roadcat

Absolutely correct. We were left with massive manufacturing capability, desperate need outside the US, and virtually no competition.

I suppose that if we could ward off the “incoming” easily, we could bomb most of the rest of the world to hell, and it’d all work again...


38 posted on 08/11/2020 12:28:19 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: Paul R.
I suppose that if we could ward off the “incoming” easily, we could bomb most of the rest of the world to hell, and it’d all work again...

Let's tweak that a little - if we could bomb most of China, then there would be little "incoming" while the rest of the world would clamor for our goods.

39 posted on 08/11/2020 12:36:01 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: rktman

I’m not reading Vox.
Is there anything in the article about replacements for diesel fuel, Jet A, and motor oil? That would be fun.


40 posted on 08/11/2020 1:11:36 AM PDT by servo1969
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